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New House or New Bass

Which to keep?

  • The dream bass

    Votes: 37 11.3%
  • The lake house

    Votes: 291 88.7%

  • Total voters
    328
I saw this on you tube the other day and it was the law of diminishing returns as it applies to basses. It went something like this:
$100 vs $200 bass = 100% improvement in quality
$200 vs $400 bass = 50% improvement in quality
$400 vs $800 bass = 25% improvement in quality
$800 vs $1600 bass= maybe 15% improvement in quality

That's awesome. When I was working music stores I told my customers something very similar for years. It's absolutely true, save I think the difference between $800 vs. $1600 is more like 5%. If you want a 15% kick in quality, the figure is more like $800 vs $4000.

Above 4k, the only differences you're going to find is country of origin. All this, of course, applies to electric instruments only.
 
But, this doesn't follow the law of diminishing returns. What can you do on a $12,000 bass that you can't do on a well setup $1600 bass?
It's sarcasm. You just made up a bunch of numbers with no objective basis and so did I. I had a Bosso bass which lists for around $4,000. It was exponentially better than any MIM bass I've ever played. My $2,000 Ben Lindsey Precision was significantly better than my MIA Precision, much more than 15% better. I didn't like my Alembic anywhere near as much as I liked my CIJ Geddy Lee Precision. You can't randomly pick numbers and randomly quantify them.
 
Still cheaper than a lake house. :D

Well, look at it like this: you now have a new hobby…taking care of the lake house. You'll lack the time to really appreciate playing any bass let alone a $12K bass. Ask me how I know!

When my wife and I last moved, one of the things I wanted was a Townhouse, where we outsource maintenance, snow shoveling, etc. - leaving me time on the weekends to gig. The last thing I want is 2 houses to maintain.
 
Well, look at it like this: you now have a new hobby…taking care of the lake house. You'll lack the time to really appreciate playing any bass let alone a $12K bass. Ask me how I know!
This is a really good point. Hopefully you have put real thought into the purchase of the house AND the upkeep of the house in the financial and time commitment aspects. Never owned a vacation home, but we recently moved into a smaller, newer (60 vs 130 year old) home with 1/4 the yard and only 2 months later I'm already greatly appreciating the lower level of house and yard work.
 
It's sarcasm. You just made up a bunch of numbers with no objective basis and so did I. I had a Bosso bass which lists for around $4,000. It was exponentially better than any MIM bass I've ever played. My $2,000 Ben Lindsey Precision was significantly better than my MIA Precision, much more than 15% better. I didn't like my Alembic anywhere near as much as I liked my CIJ Geddy Lee Precision. You can't randomly pick numbers and randomly quantify them.
But it was in a Youtube video so it must be true! I hear that a lot these days.;)
 
When my wife and I last moved, one of the things I wanted was a Townhouse, where we outsource maintenance, snow shoveling, etc. - leaving me time on the weekends to gig. The last thing I want is 2 houses to maintain.
I'm with you. When we moved to our current house I told my wife I'd gladly pay for someone to do the landscaping, but I wasn't going to do it. I actually enjoy mowing the yard and shoveling the snow. But TWO houses, that a big HELL NO.
 
So, my wife green-lit my dream bass. Deposit paid, balance is due... $12K

My wife found her dream lake house, deposit is paid, and now she wants to pivot and use the 12K for closing costs.

$1200 deposit will be lost...

We both agree that we don't want to touch savings because there are some minor upgrades that she wants to do to the house.

So... which stays... the lake house, or the bass?

Having just built a retirement home, $1,200 is like a one window on the Sears Tower in Chicago. A happy wife is priceless.
 
Interesting perspectives. Seems there are very different standards applied to musical instruments vs. other, more conventional and traditional male toys. Even by musicians.

IMO this is, at best, a 'Ten percenter' problem. ie "nice problems to have" for sure.

A one percenter wouldn't have to choose. They'd start an LLC and swing the 12 grand in seed money around in tight little circles until it was 36k on paper, cash out, leave some chump holding the bag and do both, with the initial 12k back in a tax haven. Then deduct both the bass and the house as business expenses. Yes, I'm exaggerating. But not much.

This is, of course, a distinction without a difference to most everyone as 12k all in one place is about as likely as a lottery win.

A Ritter. That does change things just a bit.

Firstly, one is NOT paying for 'wood and wire.' That's like saying a Rodan is just a hunk of bronze, or a Monet is just daubs of paint on canvas. A Ritter is a functional musical instrument that is also a sculpture. Or a sculpture that's also a functional musical instrument. Either way, that's exceedingly rare air and one of the very few cases where that price point makes something vaguely resembling sense.

Secondly, it *will* appreciate in value. They don't make many, demand is higher than supply and they won't be made forever. It's a decent place to park 12k. Better than a boat, a motorcycle, golf or any number of other hobby money pits the so-called normal people I work with are likely to dump their discretionary income into.

Again I really don't see much of a difference between owning a Ritter and dropping 12k on a toy car that's not going to be a daily driver. (how much toy car does 12k buy these days? A timeshare?)

well, other than the difference in value assigned by our culture, which has a shockingly bad view of the arts vs other, equally pointless, time and money wasters.
 
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