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New Knight Rider?

#41
We watched the first half of the TV movie last night. The acting was horrible and the storyline sub-par. (Is it me, or does Sydney Tamiia Poitier look just like her dad?) But that car is awesome. And yes, I'm a big Mustang fan, so I was pumped.

I guess we'll see the Camaro (but no Firebird) later this year, so we'll see how Chevy did with the production version. The Challenger will be a good fit for Chrysler in the pony-car market. Can't wait to see those. :cool:
 
#43
Bryan316 said:
What do you know about supercars? Hmm? Have you ever even SAT in a Viper, a Corvette, a vintage Mustang, an original Camaro OR one from the late 80's? Do you OWN anything that's naturally aspirated? Do you own anything more than a fuel-efficient daily driver? Have you ever driven anything until the needle was buried? Have you ever even TOUCHED a vehicle that was older than you are, built when real vehicles were made of METAL, not a bunch of molded plastic and fiberglass? Have you ever parallel-parked your car from the other direction by fishtailing it into place?

Son I live in the Motor City. I've seen vehicles you could only touch on a calendar from Border's. I surround myself with extreme vehicles every summer at car shows that have machines that would intimidate you into a back-tracking puppy. I've put a 1970 Mustang on a Nascar track and buried that pedal on 18-degree banks. I've shamed rice-burners and Neon-tuners. I've experienced TRUE horsepower. I've experienced a 600hp Hemi Cuda jumping up to 80mph in my company's DRIVEWAY! You have no idea what performance is. You have no idea what power is. You've never touched the real deal, hell you've never even been within 50 feet of something that COMMANDS respect and fear! You're 20 years old and don't know crap about crap!


You're nothing but a lot of talk over the internet and have never experienced a true supercar. I've got one parked in my garage, restoring it to original condition and pimping that suspension so that Stang can take some serious abuse. You've never unbolted a carseat from a chassis! So I can't expect you to truly respect or appreciate a real vehicle, just the kiddy-talk that you get from your video games and your magazines showing vehicles you'll never touch. I've already lived through more vehicles than you'll experience in your whole lifetime.
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What are you building, exactly ? I have a 420 HP NA Dakota sitting in my driveway right now. Is it a super car, no. But 430HP in a Dakota ? That's a man's vehicle right there.
 
#44
I called my wife to tell her to let our 8 yr old son watch it, he'd find it pretty cool - like I did when I was younger. No sooner had I hung up and there's a lesbian scene, and the one bad guy is calling the other a "bitch".

Nice.

My own fault I guess. I should have paid closer attention to the rating, whatever it was.

They should redo Fantasy Island ala 2008, Prolly be X-rated.
 
#45
1969 Mustang coupe. Plain-Jane. Not a Boss, not a Mach 1, not a convertible, nothing spectacular like that. Which makes it 600 pounds lighter simply because it doesn't have the fastback body style and those superheavy folding rear seats.

302 2V that's bee rebuilt and .030 over to clean up the cylinder walls. Got a very nicely matched aluminum manifold and Holley 760 double. These two will give me some nice power without going rediculous with a big block. I'm trying to keep this a lightweight car.

But the suspension is completely jacked. Raised the whole front A-arm mounting up an inch to lower the body. BASTARD to drill new bolt holes through the front shock towers. You have no idea the scars I got from when the hammer drill spun as the drill bit ate through the very last layer of steel. Also added a big-block front sway bar. Screw that 7/8" bar, I want me some 1-1/4" in the front!!! After 35 years, the whole engine bay has lowly flexed inward. So I had to use a floor jack and heavy pipes cut at angles, to spread the bay back out to install the export brace and monte carlo bar. That was the scariest part of this restoration. Every moment, my buddy and I were expecting everything to spring out and kill us.

Totally different profile and rating rear springs with different shackles to drop the rear end an inch as well, to keep the car flat. The bitchwork for the rear end was rewelding the shackle mounts. There's a pipe welded through the rear chassis, and it broke loose. Man, welding upside down HURTS. Never ever had so many little burns and scars on me from, hell, from even three of my worst welding projects! Everything on me itched for days! Added another sway bar to the back. From just bouncing up and down in the trunk space, shimmeying side to side, it's a totally different beast from my brother's Mustang. This is gonna make for one squirrely rally car once I'm done!

Reinforced the ol' Rustang floorboards with 1/4" plate steel. Heavy and safe. No more Flintstonemobile for me! This spring, I gotta tackle the dashboard and instrument cluster and heating. That's the part I'm not too confident about. Structural, hell yeah. Electronics, nuh uh. I'll end up accidentally having power windows and a stereo that picks up HAM radio by the time I'm done with that chaos! I might strip my brother's dashboard off so I can use it as an example where all the blood and guts of the wires are supposed to be run. Just scares me to know I'll probably be spending many weekends just staring at it, making zero progress. Heh heh. I'ma hate it.


But until the spring, my buddy is swapping engines in his 31 Ford pickup rat rod. Getting rid of a 327 Chevy block (BLASPHEMY!) to put in a 57 flat-head truck block. He's had his engine JACKED beyond JACKED. Every component touching that crank has been balanced and then rebalanced after assembly and dyno-testing. We spent Saturday afternoon here at work milling his Offenhausen intake manifold to let a modern generator/alternator housing attach to it, cuz after decades of castings, the front channel has flared outward, and no standard housing will slide onto it! totally customized job. And because he's running dual carbs, we had to make a whole new alternator cap plate. the stock plate had more than a 1/2" clearance problem between the alt's final position and the front carb. I broke and dulled 5 different lathe bits on the lathe, just trying to get that plate made. What a hellacious undertaking. BUT IT FITS. I shall not be defeated! \m/ \m/ If he can get his engine assembled and I get his engine mounts rewelded forward 2 inches by the end of this weekend, he'll be able to get everything reassembled for Autorama. He said he'd quit his job before missing this year's show. I believe him! :eek:
 
#48
Bryan316 said:
1969 Mustang coupe. Plain-Jane. Not a Boss, not a Mach 1, not a convertible, nothing spectacular like that. Which makes it 600 pounds lighter simply because it doesn't have the fastback body style and those superheavy folding rear seats.

302 2V that's bee rebuilt and .030 over to clean up the cylinder walls. Got a very nicely matched aluminum manifold and Holley 760 double. These two will give me some nice power without going rediculous with a big block. I'm trying to keep this a lightweight car.

But the suspension is completely jacked. Raised the whole front A-arm mounting up an inch to lower the body. BASTARD to drill new bolt holes through the front shock towers. You have no idea the scars I got from when the hammer drill spun as the drill bit ate through the very last layer of steel. Also added a big-block front sway bar. Screw that 7/8" bar, I want me some 1-1/4" in the front!!! After 35 years, the whole engine bay has lowly flexed inward. So I had to use a floor jack and heavy pipes cut at angles, to spread the bay back out to install the export brace and monte carlo bar. That was the scariest part of this restoration. Every moment, my buddy and I were expecting everything to spring out and kill us.

Totally different profile and rating rear springs with different shackles to drop the rear end an inch as well, to keep the car flat. The bitchwork for the rear end was rewelding the shackle mounts. There's a pipe welded through the rear chassis, and it broke loose. Man, welding upside down HURTS. Never ever had so many little burns and scars on me from, hell, from even three of my worst welding projects! Everything on me itched for days! Added another sway bar to the back. From just bouncing up and down in the trunk space, shimmeying side to side, it's a totally different beast from my brother's Mustang. This is gonna make for one squirrely rally car once I'm done!

Reinforced the ol' Rustang floorboards with 1/4" plate steel. Heavy and safe. No more Flintstonemobile for me! This spring, I gotta tackle the dashboard and instrument cluster and heating. That's the part I'm not too confident about. Structural, hell yeah. Electronics, nuh uh. I'll end up accidentally having power windows and a stereo that picks up HAM radio by the time I'm done with that chaos! I might strip my brother's dashboard off so I can use it as an example where all the blood and guts of the wires are supposed to be run. Just scares me to know I'll probably be spending many weekends just staring at it, making zero progress. Heh heh. I'ma hate it.


But until the spring, my buddy is swapping engines in his 31 Ford pickup rat rod. Getting rid of a 327 Chevy block (BLASPHEMY!) to put in a 57 flat-head truck block. He's had his engine JACKED beyond JACKED. Every component touching that crank has been balanced and then rebalanced after assembly and dyno-testing. We spent Saturday afternoon here at work milling his Offenhausen intake manifold to let a modern generator/alternator housing attach to it, cuz after decades of castings, the front channel has flared outward, and no standard housing will slide onto it! totally customized job. And because he's running dual carbs, we had to make a whole new alternator cap plate. the stock plate had more than a 1/2" clearance problem between the alt's final position and the front carb. I broke and dulled 5 different lathe bits on the lathe, just trying to get that plate made. What a hellacious undertaking. BUT IT FITS. I shall not be defeated! \m/ \m/ If he can get his engine assembled and I get his engine mounts rewelded forward 2 inches by the end of this weekend, he'll be able to get everything reassembled for Autorama. He said he'd quit his job before missing this year's show. I believe him! :eek:
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Sounds like a great project. I used to be a ford guy, Mopars for me now. At one time I owned a 351 cleveland powered 53 F-100 and a 429 SCJ powered Torino Cobra. I miss both of those rides. Did you ever think about hacking out the shock towers and redoing the front end with one of those new bolt in cross memebers. the ones that give you a coil over front suspension and rack & pinion steering ? At this point I would not build an old ford or mopar without doing that mod. It's spendy, but well worth it. Good luck with your project. If you ever get to Jersey, let's line 'em up. I may be out your way in august. For the national Dakota R/T club meet and the woodward dream cruise. Come out and race with us.
 
#50
Bryan316 said:
What do you know about supercars? Hmm? Have you ever even SAT in a Viper, a Corvette, a vintage Mustang, an original Camaro OR one from the late 80's? Do you OWN anything that's naturally aspirated? Do you own anything more than a fuel-efficient daily driver? Have you ever driven anything until the needle was buried? Have you ever even TOUCHED a vehicle that was older than you are, built when real vehicles were made of METAL, not a bunch of molded plastic and fiberglass? Have you ever parallel-parked your car from the other direction by fishtailing it into place?

Son I live in the Motor City. I've seen vehicles you could only touch on a calendar from Border's. I surround myself with extreme vehicles every summer at car shows that have machines that would intimidate you into a back-tracking puppy. I've put a 1970 Mustang on a Nascar track and buried that pedal on 18-degree banks. I've shamed rice-burners and Neon-tuners. I've experienced TRUE horsepower. I've experienced a 600hp Hemi Cuda jumping up to 80mph in my company's DRIVEWAY! You have no idea what performance is. You have no idea what power is. You've never touched the real deal, hell you've never even been within 50 feet of something that COMMANDS respect and fear! You're 20 years old and don't know crap about crap!


You're nothing but a lot of talk over the internet and have never experienced a true supercar. I've got one parked in my garage, restoring it to original condition and pimping that suspension so that Stang can take some serious abuse. You've never unbolted a carseat from a chassis! So I can't expect you to truly respect or appreciate a real vehicle, just the kiddy-talk that you get from your video games and your magazines showing vehicles you'll never touch. I've already lived through more vehicles than you'll experience in your whole lifetime.
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You want a medal?
 
#51
Bryan316 said:
.... the late 80's?
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w3ell i just sold my 88 prelude, it might of been older than me, but pronb same age :) (i owned a 85 chariot but that was poos)
Bryan316 said:
Do you OWN anything that's naturally aspirated? Do you own anything more than a fuel-efficient daily driver? Have you ever driven anything until the needle was buried? Have you ever even TOUCHED a vehicle that was older than you are, built when real vehicles were made of METAL, not a bunch of molded plastic and fiberglass?
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my little 2.0l prelude could do all this lol. you dont need some giant monster to be able to do it.

Bryan316 said:
Have you ever parallel-parked your car from the other direction by fishtailing it into place?
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well thats just dangerous:rollno:







But really buddy im just yanking ya chain,:)
 
#53
Bryan316 said:
What do you know about supercars? Hmm? Have you ever even SAT in a Viper, a Corvette, a vintage Mustang, an original Camaro OR one from the late 80's? Do you OWN anything that's naturally aspirated? Do you own anything more than a fuel-efficient daily driver? Have you ever driven anything until the needle was buried? Have you ever even TOUCHED a vehicle that was older than you are, built when real vehicles were made of METAL, not a bunch of molded plastic and fiberglass? Have you ever parallel-parked your car from the other direction by fishtailing it into place?

Son I live in the Motor City. I've seen vehicles you could only touch on a calendar from Border's. I surround myself with extreme vehicles every summer at car shows that have machines that would intimidate you into a back-tracking puppy. I've put a 1970 Mustang on a Nascar track and buried that pedal on 18-degree banks. I've shamed rice-burners and Neon-tuners. I've experienced TRUE horsepower. I've experienced a 600hp Hemi Cuda jumping up to 80mph in my company's DRIVEWAY! You have no idea what performance is. You have no idea what power is. You've never touched the real deal, hell you've never even been within 50 feet of something that COMMANDS respect and fear! You're 20 years old and don't know crap about crap!


You're nothing but a lot of talk over the internet and have never experienced a true supercar. I've got one parked in my garage, restoring it to original condition and pimping that suspension so that Stang can take some serious abuse. You've never unbolted a carseat from a chassis! So I can't expect you to truly respect or appreciate a real vehicle, just the kiddy-talk that you get from your video games and your magazines showing vehicles you'll never touch. I've already lived through more vehicles than you'll experience in your whole lifetime.
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I say pfft. :spit:
 
#57
buzzbass said:
Sounds like a great project. I used to be a ford guy, Mopars for me now. At one time I owned a 351 cleveland powered 53 F-100 and a 429 SCJ powered Torino Cobra. I miss both of those rides. Did you ever think about hacking out the shock towers and redoing the front end with one of those new bolt in cross memebers. the ones that give you a coil over front suspension and rack & pinion steering ? At this point I would not build an old ford or mopar without doing that mod. It's spendy, but well worth it. Good luck with your project. If you ever get to Jersey, let's line 'em up. I may be out your way in august. For the national Dakota R/T club meet and the woodward dream cruise. Come out and race with us.
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AWWWW!!!! The Torino is such a beautiful, big boat cruiser. High school buddy inherited his dad's 76 Gran Torino with a Cleveland. We were soooo tempted to gut it for a big block or find a Boss small block. I miss that car, we had some grand ol' times just cruising for hours on just one road. Drive as far as we could in one compass direction, then swap drivers and cruise on home.

And a 53 Ford boxer is such a classic. I've been getting more and more disgusted by all the new-fangled technology they try to cram into a truck these days. Power windows, power doors, answering the phone for you, heated mirrors, blinkers in the mirrors, digital compasses, digital MPG readings, glow-on-glow-off dome lights, chiming seat belts.... I think when my current truck finally dies of old age, I'ma get a 55 F100 and restore it, and give it a good efficient heater, and a 6-disc in-dash CD changer, and and a modest sound system so I can feel that double-kick drum nice and heavy. And CHROME the CRAP outta that thing. Gloss black and polished chrome is unbeatable.
 
#58
Bryan316 said:
500hp? Whose false information you been reading? That car was tweaked here in Detroit by a performance shop for 720bhp.

You are one seriously jealous Bowtie lover who can't stand that Pontiac no longer produces a real hot rod, and the prototype Camaro is a desperate and poorly executed attempt at rekindling the vintage muscle car look. Sorry about that. Not my fault that Ford can make a car that IS badass, while your precious GM guys still can't get that new Camaro to look like a real competitor, just a fiberglassed up cosmetic wananbe.

But don't worry, you've still got that stale, boring eyesore of a Corvette to keep your hopes up... Heh heh.
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Ooooh, zing! I'm sooo embarassed now. :rolleyes: For someone who doesn't know me from Adam, you sure think you've got me figured out.

The GT500 specs, from Ford's website:

2008 SHELBY GT500 QUICK SPECS
POWERTRAIN
5.4-liter, DOHC, 32-valve, 90-degree V-8
500 horsepower, 480 lb.-ft. of torque
Roots-type Eaton supercharger and air-to-water intercooler
Iron block, Ford GT aluminum heads, dual exhaust
Tremec TR6060 6-speed manual transmission
Rear-wheel drive, 3.31:1 axle ratio; Traction Control

...Runs high 12's in the 1/4... Tubby piece of junk.

The GT500KR, which KITT was based on, is 550hp, and still a tubby piece of crap.

The real deal is a friend of mine here that took his 04 Cobra and turned it into a monster, all for less than what you'd spend on a stock, tubby, and ugly "new" Mustang... Who's cashing in on "a desperate and poorly executed attempt at rekindling the vintage muscle car look," again? You're just mad because Ford didn't bother to take the time to do it right, as is the case with GM and Chrysler. Ford may have done it first, but it only worked for so long the first time...

I can take a Honda and make it a 720hp car, that doesn't make it cool... Though it would be faster than the pile of junk they're trying to pass off as KITT.

I'm not specifically a bowtie-lover. Actually, I prefer European imports. Better quality than anything made here anymore, sadly. And aside from the 4 Camaros that I have owned, I'm driving a Pontiac Grand Am because I eventually realized that my money is better spent on toys that won't be obsolete in a couple of years.

The Camaro (and Challenger) will ultimately do the same thing to the Mustang that they did back in the heyday of musclecars - make it irrelevant. On all three, what can we expect, stock? Cheap plastic? Check. Straight-line power that's virtually unusable on our roads, but necessary handling that's worthless? Check. An inflated price tag that reflects what Americans are willing to pay for brand? Check.

KITT was no better than Bumblebee, or NASCAR - strategically placing a car that makes people want to go out and buy a car that has only one thing in common with the one they see on TV - a skin.
 
#59
I love jealousy. It's so sweet on my palette. The Camaro made NOTHING irrelevant. It only made Dodge's look better and tried to one-up the Mustang, which it never could do. Not 40 years ago, not tomorrow.


And while you can pimp a Honda to be a 720hp monster, Ford already had them 40 years ago. Look up the 800hp 1966 Shelby Cobra "King of all Snakes". Honda's just playing catch-up.
 

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