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how snug is the connection on the receiver? my bass moves around A LOT... im worried about the cable getting pulled out
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NEW Line6 G30 wireless - REVIEW !!!!
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The higher level transmitter does not (the one corresponding to the G50/G90.) The G30 transmitter does, but I wanted the extended range and channels of the G50. Looks like A) I'll make do with the range of the G30, or B) I'll ask Zaolla if they can make a 1 foot 1/4"-TA4F cable. Me no likey.
Funny little messup in his analogy there, as email is not sent to a computer, but to an inbox whose receptor is an internet incoming server which can be accessed anywhere if you have the name and code for it.
But, I'll shut up.
But, I'll shut up.
It's snug, but I have attached the cable to the strap with duct tape too. It means I can plug/unplug it, but as it it attached to the strap in the middle it will not move no matter how much a move around...
I find it very sturdy. I'm not a crazy jumper on stage, so I feel pretty confident that the connection will stay. Unless the cable catches onto something, I don't see any potential problems.
Thanks for the links!
Proof of my experience with my own G30 unit.
The sound is pristine and sounds exactly the same as a high-quality cable when using the 15ft cable setting. We are used to the guitar cable high-en cutoff, so with the Cable Tone off, you get a higher fidelity representation that sound like some added high end.
Got the G50, and it is 1/4 inch on the bass end, and a ta4f connector on the transmitter end. Kind of like a mini xlr. I tell you though. These new units seem way better constructed than the old X2's. From the metal chassis on both the transmitter and receiver, to the quality of the cable. The battery compartment, the belt clip, are all miles ahead of the X2's. Love the tuner out on the receiver too. Range and sound seem just as good. Time will tell about reliability. Awesome purchase.
I have the X2 rackmount and it is great except three things. Battery life (my old Shure would last 4 or 5 gigs), that stupid connector on the cable, and the battery connection on the transmitter.
We all know about the way the cables died. I had a Bayou version and it lasted longer but eventually died - Butch is going to fix it - so another payoff of getting his stuff. But what nailed me to the wall was the crappy batter connection. Last Friday we went into "Pour Some Sugar On Me" and I took advantage of no bass in the beginning to try and change the battery. I could not get the @#$% battery onto the terminals. The roadie runs up and takes the unit and he tries and also fumbles and drops the battery even. Eventually got it together and I started the song late. In comparison - the old Shure you just opened the door, the battery fell out and you dropped the new one in. Done! You can see the experience in producing gadgets for live music that Shure has which Line6 does not.
Are people saying that the new rackmount version does not do 1/4" between the transmitter and bass? The one problem with the old Shure was they also used some mini XLR connector and that would break - though it took a couple of years.
We all know about the way the cables died. I had a Bayou version and it lasted longer but eventually died - Butch is going to fix it - so another payoff of getting his stuff. But what nailed me to the wall was the crappy batter connection. Last Friday we went into "Pour Some Sugar On Me" and I took advantage of no bass in the beginning to try and change the battery. I could not get the @#$% battery onto the terminals. The roadie runs up and takes the unit and he tries and also fumbles and drops the battery even. Eventually got it together and I started the song late. In comparison - the old Shure you just opened the door, the battery fell out and you dropped the new one in. Done! You can see the experience in producing gadgets for live music that Shure has which Line6 does not.
Are people saying that the new rackmount version does not do 1/4" between the transmitter and bass? The one problem with the old Shure was they also used some mini XLR connector and that would break - though it took a couple of years.
Just got my G50 tuesday (preordered forever ago) and put it through a workout.
The transmitter is NOT 1/4" to 1/4" (I wish I would have known for sure before I preordered). Like previously stated its TA4M. Inspecting the TA4F connector on the cable I can see it will last longer for most people than the X2's locking 1/8", but they put fairly cheap looking/feeling TA4F connector on it (not that there are a lot of quality choices for this anyway).
I let the transmitter eat a set of AA batteries, no bass connected, hi power, to see if the timer was right and it was close. On power up the LCD said 8:40 and the unit shut off at 7:50 minutes on my watch. I would venture to guess that depending on the bass, its not unreasonable to get 6 hours minimum out of a set of AA's. Thats makes this WAY cheaper than an X2 to operate. Based on the remaining voltage of the Alkaline AA's, I'm going to guess that a set of 3000mah NiMH AA rechargables would only last three hours or so at most. So my hopes of using rechargables without changing mid-gig are dashed.
The case of the transmitter and the receiver are metal and as previously stated the battery door is going to be the weakest link as far as the actual transmitter (included TA4 to 1/4" wire excluded). The only redeeming thing about the battery door is that it is positioned that you could use electrical tape to keep the door closed and your transmitter functioning if it does break and not but covering any buttons or switches with the tape.
One thing I wasn't expecting with the G50's transmitter is two transmitter power levels. A fresh set of batteries reads 8:40 on the LCD on hi, but 10:00 on low. Low power I was able to walk about 50 feet (and two walls) from the receiver before it went silent. On high power I didn't have enough distance available to without going outside to cause a dropout. We have TONS of WiFi around here and so far it doesn't seem to hurt range as much as I thought.
The receiver is heavy enough it isn't going to vibrate off your amp. And for people putting this thing on a pedal board, the rubber feet don't come attached from the factory, which to me would be a big plus.
The cable tone thing is interesting, but if you have a quality cable already or an active bass, its useless IMO. But the sound is just as clear as the X2.
Line 6 learned a lot from the X2 and the mostly put it in practice here.
1. The belt clip is much better than the X2, you can take the screw out and orient the unit any way you want
2. The transmitter case sits much flatter and seems built very well
3. Sadly it seems only the G30 is 1/4" to 1/4"
4. The thing takes AA batteries instead of 9V!
5. Instead of a stupid button (that you have to hold for off) for power on the transmitter, there is an actual switch.
Overall the G50 is miles better than my old XDS or XDR95. Its the best wireless I know of, period.
The transmitter is NOT 1/4" to 1/4" (I wish I would have known for sure before I preordered). Like previously stated its TA4M. Inspecting the TA4F connector on the cable I can see it will last longer for most people than the X2's locking 1/8", but they put fairly cheap looking/feeling TA4F connector on it (not that there are a lot of quality choices for this anyway).
I let the transmitter eat a set of AA batteries, no bass connected, hi power, to see if the timer was right and it was close. On power up the LCD said 8:40 and the unit shut off at 7:50 minutes on my watch. I would venture to guess that depending on the bass, its not unreasonable to get 6 hours minimum out of a set of AA's. Thats makes this WAY cheaper than an X2 to operate. Based on the remaining voltage of the Alkaline AA's, I'm going to guess that a set of 3000mah NiMH AA rechargables would only last three hours or so at most. So my hopes of using rechargables without changing mid-gig are dashed.
The case of the transmitter and the receiver are metal and as previously stated the battery door is going to be the weakest link as far as the actual transmitter (included TA4 to 1/4" wire excluded). The only redeeming thing about the battery door is that it is positioned that you could use electrical tape to keep the door closed and your transmitter functioning if it does break and not but covering any buttons or switches with the tape.
One thing I wasn't expecting with the G50's transmitter is two transmitter power levels. A fresh set of batteries reads 8:40 on the LCD on hi, but 10:00 on low. Low power I was able to walk about 50 feet (and two walls) from the receiver before it went silent. On high power I didn't have enough distance available to without going outside to cause a dropout. We have TONS of WiFi around here and so far it doesn't seem to hurt range as much as I thought.
The receiver is heavy enough it isn't going to vibrate off your amp. And for people putting this thing on a pedal board, the rubber feet don't come attached from the factory, which to me would be a big plus.
The cable tone thing is interesting, but if you have a quality cable already or an active bass, its useless IMO. But the sound is just as clear as the X2.
Line 6 learned a lot from the X2 and the mostly put it in practice here.
1. The belt clip is much better than the X2, you can take the screw out and orient the unit any way you want
2. The transmitter case sits much flatter and seems built very well
3. Sadly it seems only the G30 is 1/4" to 1/4"
4. The thing takes AA batteries instead of 9V!
5. Instead of a stupid button (that you have to hold for off) for power on the transmitter, there is an actual switch.
Overall the G50 is miles better than my old XDS or XDR95. Its the best wireless I know of, period.
I guess the main advantage with the TA4M/F connector is that it is a 'lock' fit - and it less likely to pull out than a 1/4in -can anyone confirm that?
MikeBass
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This is why I haven't bought a wireless yet. I knew these were available in Europe, so I just waited until they were available here. I can now buy a wireless. How the hell does it take this long for 1/4" capability?
I have no idea!.
When I first got mine and plugged it in, I was questioning how in the world did it take till 2010 for somebody to use a regular 1/4" cable.
So simples it must have slipped every company's mind or something.
Line 6 didn't design the X2, but you're right anyway (the company that did design it wasn't very experienced compared to Shure). The G series is vastly superior to the X2, IMO (having owned the XDS and XDR).
The rack unit uses the TBP-12 transmitter so it is TA4 (mini-xlr) to 1/4" as well.
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The guys who built the new X2 were the guys who built the original X2s- ya know, the ones that sell for crazy jack if/when you can find them, still to this day?
They also banked like mofos on this Line 6 deal, I'm sure. Just like when they sold their first technology to Sennheiser and had a non-compete for such a long time.
Just bought a Sennheiser ew 572 G3 ...
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/professional_wireless-microphone-systems_wireless-instrument-systems_ew-500-g3_503452
No wonder it was voted best wireless instrument system for 2009..
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/professional_wireless-microphone-systems_wireless-instrument-systems_ew-500-g3_503452
No wonder it was voted best wireless instrument system for 2009..
