• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

New mesa subway amps and cabs!

Any Pelican pros here that can suggest a case model to fit the WD-800? The included bag is great, but all my amps get dropped or fall out of a vehicle at some point. My other class d heads have been fine, but I want to give this one some armor.


I use the Pelican 1550 case. Plenty of room for the amp and speaker/power cables. I’ll post pics when I get a chance.
 
How does the SW215 compare to the PH610? From what I hear, that cabinet is no slouch either. I'm actually lately interested in a PH610. I run mostly 15s a the moment.

I use PH410s, plus I have the SW115 and 210. I’ve never used the PH610 or SW215, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

I’ve never particularly liked the D800 though my Powerhouse 410s. The Subway cabs that I’ve owned have had a more prominent midrange, which really compliments the D800s darker voice.

IMO, the PH cabs work better with a brighter amp driving them... Carbine, Strategy, WD800.
 
OK, had a chance to play my D-800 through the new 2x15 cabinet yesterday..... well.....settle in my friends (TL/DR at the very bottom for your convenience). Let me preface by saying I am not a professional by any means, merely a weekend warrior playing in a couple of cover bands and way near the bottom as far as skill and bass mastery go. I tell everyone I am not the best player in my neighborhood, heck not even the best player on my street but I manage. I am also not the greatest at trying to describe sounds and don't claim to have the best ears. So.....

My current rigs are an Ampeg V4B RI head with an Ampeg Classic (Made in USA) 8x10 "fridge" cabinet. As most of you are aware, this setup sounds absolutely incredible and is usually the benchmark for bass tone. I don't use this setup much, played a couple of outdoor gigs with it and use it maybe once a week for home practice. My other main rig is a Fender v3 Rumble 500 2x10 combo on top of a Rumble 2x10 extension cabinet for a vertical 4x10 stack. This setup sounds great to me, so good in fact that I was thinking of getting the 500 head and 2 separate Rumble 1x15 cabinets. I use this rig for 90% of my gigs since it's light and easy to move and sounds almost as good as the Ampeg. (Yes it does).

Now we come to the D-800. I normally play this through a Carvin BR115 cabinet that I leave at one of the bands rehearsal spaces. I also play it through a Mesa PH-6x10 cabinet at home. While it sounded good through either of these cabinets, to me the Rumble sounded better which I thought was strange because the D-800 gets so many great reviews. Maybe I don't like the Mesa standard tone, perhaps I couldn't find the settings I liked, I don't know. I don't want to say it sounded sterile, but it was just a plain vanilla type of tone without much character. I have always been a Mesa fan going back to my guitar playing days when I owned a Rectifier stack, so before throwing in the towel and selling it, I decided to try it with the matching 2x15 cabinet. (I use my DI pedal at my other bands rehearsal space through the mixer going into 2x15 PA speakers and it sounds great there).

What a difference!! I will NEVER doubt anyone when they say the cabinets don't make a difference and it's all in the amp. The D-800 through the 2x15's sounds incredible! The notes had clarity and definition and most of all, character. I played through several basses and was very impressed. My Precisions thumped and my Jazzes growled like never before. I was grinning from ear to ear like a fool and loving every minute of it. This sucker is LOUD too, putting the Master at 12 o'clock shook the pictures on the wall and still sounded great with no signs of being tapped out and no O/D warning light either. I found my new #1 :)

I was very hesitant to spend that much on a cabinet and I know the old adage of "buy once, cry once" but yeah, this cabinet is worth every penny.

TL/DR: This cabinet is amazing! Tone for days and the power...oh the power! Mesa hit it out of the park with this one! 10/10, would buy again!

Digging this, because I gigged the nearly same Fender setup for several years and was wanting to get back to Ampeg, esp a V4B/810, but instead tried the Mesa Subway route and have been ecstatic. TRUTH on the cabs. My standard wedding/private party/big stage rig for a few years was the Rumble 500 head and 210 cabs. I agree, it's an amazing sounding amp, most especially considering the price point. The Rumble head is one of the best bass amps I've owned for tone and feature set. However, one day I bought a wireless setup so I could listen to the mix out in the room for our private gigs, and I realized the Rumble cabs get muddy real quick at a short distance and are just an absolute mess in old churches and other acoustically challenging rooms we play.

I tried out a few different well-known cabs to see if I could improve this, and the Mesa Subways won hands down for my needs. For the last six months I've run the Rumble head through a Subway 12/15 stack, and it's been an amazing difference...clarity in the room and HUGE bottom end. Up close, I feel the bass in my chest like an 810, something I never felt with the Rumble cabs, or really anything else besides a fridge AND I can lug it easily up and down old building stairways and through fences and bushes to crazy wedding spots. For the first time in 16 years of playing with my band, the guitarists have commented on the awesomeness of the bass feel. I cannot wait to go plaid with the WD-800 on top.
 
Last edited:
I dont need no stinkin reviews. Pulled the trigger on the 212.
Put order in to Mesa Hollywood. Got a call within an hour from a nice guy thanking me for
my order and letting me know shipping today. Quite comforting.
1 of my Hathor 1203s will be for sale soon. I dont need no stinkin candy either.

Can't wait for your review/ impressions
 
  • Like
Reactions: JohnnyBottom
I don’t think the WD-800 is for me. I prefer a firmer bottom than what I’m getting from it, c’est la vie. Spent an hour with it, my board (it does take drive pedals very well), a passive and an active bass, and a lot of knob turning. Can definitely hear the ‘800 heritage’. I found the 800+ more to my liking. Anyone around here looking for one, it should be back at L&M North Saturday.
 
I don’t think the WD-800 is for me. I prefer a firmer bottom than what I’m getting from it,
forward-lunges.gif
 
I don’t think the WD-800 is for me. I prefer a firmer bottom than what I’m getting from it,
...and this is why it's so hard to tell sometimes where the sweet spot is in tone and feel from person to person. Many hard core, original WA players have a problem with not enough of the old bloom, looseness, pillow-like early compression thing that was a WA signature tone and feel. As an original WA user I sort of wondered if the WA faithful would like the tighter, quicker feel this head has. We all have different tone goals and the good news is that we also have a ton of great choices!
 
...and this is why it's so hard to tell sometimes where the sweet spot is in tone and feel from person to person. Many hard core, original WA players have a problem with not enough of the old bloom, looseness, pillow-like early compression thing that was a WA signature tone and feel. As an original WA user I sort of wondered if the WA faithful would like the tighter, quicker feel this head has. We all have different tone goals and the good news is that we also have a ton of great choices!

I haven't ever played a WalkAbout, but I did have a SuperBassman for quite a while and know what you're talking about with bloom. The WD800 is a good sounding amp, but that (bloomy) it is not. I mentioned earlier above in my first impression post, that I liked it much more with the damping low. This is despite my general like of GK, where it's actually very quick feeling - damping high, the WD800 can do that. Disclaimer, I never did get the WD800 screaming loud, and I recognize it may behave differently run well up. But I did have it LOUD in the garage, for long enough to know it wasn't quite what I thought it might be based on my reading - just the voicing isn't what I was looking for, everything else is top notch, and I am NOT criticizing the product in any way shape or form. My preference and nothing more.
 
I don’t think the WD-800 is for me. I prefer a firmer bottom than what I’m getting from it, c’est la vie. Spent an hour with it, my board (it does take drive pedals very well), a passive and an active bass, and a lot of knob turning. Can definitely hear the ‘800 heritage’. I found the 800+ more to my liking. Anyone around here looking for one, it should be back at L&M North Saturday.

The D800/800+ it is not, for sure.
 
@keto hey no harm no foul brotha. My initial experience was a bit polarizing after coming from the D800+ to the WD. I missed that 800 sound for a week but after a hefty amount of knob tweaking and REALLY REALLY paying attention to the sound, I’ve come to enjoy the WD more.

I get what you’re saying about the bottom end. It’s not as... hefty maybe is the word. To me the WD seems more like I’m hearing separate component speakers with a dedicated subwoofer like in my car. I like that. A lot! The D800+ is more direct I think.

As Dorf on Golf always said, “ye got de different strokes foreh de different folks he goteh de different folks witeh de different strokes”.
 
Last edited:
To me the WD seems more like I’m hearing separate component speakers with a dedicated subwoofer like in my car. I like that. A lot! The D800+ is more direct I think.


Agree with your take. The WD800 seems to have more texture in the mids, more "dimensional". Shaped in a more "round" tone vibe versus, the more "square" tone vibe of the D800+. The 800+ seems different in the lows, better for some people I'm sure. I get that.
 
What you guys are experiencing is that different amps suit different tastes. One is not better than the other and that was never intended, though I can understand some player's confusion.

This is also what made designing the WD-800 so difficult, balancing many fine points to arrive at a destination that would suit this type of player better than the D-800/+
 
This is also what made designing the WD-800 so difficult, balancing many fine points to arrive at a destination that would suit this type of player better than the D-800/+

What other amplifier manufacturer / designer is doing this besides Mesa? Cheers.
 
What other amplifier manufacturer / designer is doing this besides Mesa? Cheers.
I'm sure here are others, we each have our unique challenges in satisfying different player tastes.
 
I meant to ask, most specifically @agedhorse thank you in advance sir.....does switching to 2 ohms on the WD-800 give it less headroom when into more cab, like the other 800s, or does the tube pre somehow invalidate that? I have not tried that yet. I think I know the answer (yes same and will edit this out if wrong).