New mesa subway amps and cabs!

[agedhorse]

It should indeed work like this, that's how the other Subway amps are. They have a true DI.

Correct, the WD-800 works like this too.

 

[petch]

I own and gig a D800 and a Subway 15. It's wonderful to see Mesa's incredible new designs, but I am totally happy with my amp and cab's simplicity, output, tone and weight. I don't feel as if the new stuff obsoletes mine in any way- just more cool choices for a wide range of players.

 

[kesslari]

When it stops raining I'm going to have to go to the local Mesa dealer and play through the D800 and the WD800.

 

[dabis]

Regarding "tone" quality, it appears that Internet speed, YouTube settings and other thing beyond our control may be responsible for different listener's experience. Forcing YouTube into higher bandwidth mode can certainly change the experience but even if the connection is fast but with a high error rate, it appears that the software will internally lower the bandwidth and quality to minimize glitches. Also, the playback system makes a huge difference. Unfortunately YouTube is the most globally universal platform for hosting.

Listening to the pre-you tube tracks, the quality is excellent. Listening through YouTube can yield different results each time the track is played, indicating variability with the platform.

Hi @agedhorse ! Pretty nice work you did on this new stuff. Also thanks to follow, ask and answer a lot of people here who it's at least interested in. About youtube demos, what I experienced looking for a demo of a product it's that it can feature really well how it works but not the sound, tone or anything that isn't strictly visual. Have you considered upload these to vimeo platform for exemple? Thanks.

 

[Jeff Scott]

I don't know about this WD naming convention, here. All I can see is either that blue and yellow can with the nozzle on it, or, that company that makes and sells guitar parts and accessories who's dimension on their products are usually Wrong Dimension (particularly, their pickguards). Perhaps, a better name would have been something that truly reflects the nature of this amp being a variation on the Walkabout. How about WAD-800?

 

[Daniel Piper]

Hmmm. I just bought a D800+.

Gosh why have you been singled out for such sorrow and suffering!?!

Boo hoo.

 

[glocke1]

Gosh why have you been singled out for such sorrow and suffering!?!

Boo hoo.

I know right?

Actually I wasn't sure how much I'd like the D800+ it being all solid state, but I am finding I like it quite a bit. I'll still probably end up getting the WA at some point though

 

[Daniel Piper]

I know right?

Actually I wasn't sure how much I'd like the D800+ it being all solid state, but I am finding I like it quite a bit. I'll still probably end up getting the WA at some point though

Good on ya fella- rock that amp!

 

[12bass]

Would love to hear some comparison clips of the new Walkabout WD-800 and the D-800(+), or better yet some RTA graphs showing the differences in basic tonal voicing.

Also, Andy, what's up with the 65dB SNR? Sounds a tad low....

 

[baxter_x]

@agedhorse why the 410 is only available in 4 ohms??
I'm used to using two 410 onstage. I'd be stuck at 2 omhs then. Am I wrong?

 

[Element Zero]

I own the D-800+, that's not going anywhere, and I'm hoping to one day pair it up with a couple of the new untralight 2x15 cabs, GAS...

Right? Could you imagine 4x15s? It would absolutely destroy anything... and anyone.

 

[jnewmark]

Waiting the definitive gig report from Chef, who probably wanted a more powerful WA more than anyone. As far as video demos go, other than live band scenarios, I much rather like the ones where the player plays one simple riff, while going through all the different tone variations.

 

[mexicant]

I own and gig a D800 and a Subway 15. It's wonderful to see Mesa's incredible new designs, but I am totally happy with my amp and cab's simplicity, output, tone and weight. I don't feel as if the new stuff obsoletes mine in any way- just more cool choices for a wide range of players.

Happy with my rig! Maybe I can pick up a 15 subway cab for a good price from someone trading up to a 2x15.

 

[12bass]

... As far as video demos go, other than live band scenarios, I much rather like the ones where the player plays one simple riff, while going through all the different tone variations.

Although probably boring for some, I'm fine with looping a phrase and playing it back through the various amps for comparison. This limits the variables primarily to the character of the individual amps. A "flat" setting on each is a good starting point for comparison. Hearing a sampling of the various tonal possibilities on each unit is also helpful.

Regarding the YouTube demo, I see both sides, in that I see what MB was going for, along with some of the criticisms. Personally, I think focusing on straight-up fingerstyle and pick playing would be better. The muted stuff sounds muffled and doesn't really allow the tone to come out, IMO, so is not very useful.

 

[two fingers]

I haven't read every page, and I'm not next to my current Walkabout to measure.

Is the new WD the same dimensions as the Walkabout?
Wondering if it would pop right into my Scout combo cab.

 

[Coughdrops]

I don't remember seeing this asked when reading through the thread but I noticed the sweep of the parametric low band was moved up compared to the OG Walkabout. From a low point of 30hz to 80hz on the WD. Was this because of the addition of the sweepable HPF and the nature of the shelving bass control? I know some folks used that old parametric band to cut the super lows to clean up sound or maximize power output. I'm not sure the change would even affect me but I'm curious about that small detail.

 

[HeyyyyyJoe]

Anyone know the release date for the WD800?

 

[dukey donkey]

MESA/Boogie®Wow! Time to save my pennies! That 2 15 looks sweet!

2x15?! finally! I'm gonna need a fresh change of clothes.... drool

 

[agedhorse]

Hi @agedhorse ! Pretty nice work you did on this new stuff. Also thanks to follow, ask and answer a lot of people here who it's at least interested in. About youtube demos, what I experienced looking for a demo of a product it's that it can feature really well how it works but not the sound, tone or anything that isn't strictly visual. Have you considered upload these to vimeo platform for exemple? Thanks.

We've have discussed this, there's still a lot of folks who struggle with internet bandwidth limits (I live a only couple miles outside the city limits and am constantly dealing with this) so it would have to be a duplicated service rather than in place of something tolerant of this.

Would love to hear some comparison clips of the new Walkabout WD-800 and the D-800(+), or better yet some RTA graphs showing the differences in basic tonal voicing.

We will see if we can come up with something. I would also expect to see something from players who have both once they ship.

Also, Andy, what's up with the 65dB SNR? Sounds a tad low....

That's a minimum unweighted spec at an actual working gain relative to rated output, not the more typical weighted number using a minimum gain set-up. For comparison, it's at least 6dB better than the original Walkabout. Not quite as quiet as the D-800+ but is also has more gain, which is accomplished through the tube and by that nature is not as quiet. Improving the noise floor over the Walkabout was another goal of this project.

@agedhorse why the 410 is only available in 4 ohms??
I'm used to using two 410 onstage. I'd be stuck at 2 omhs then. Am I wrong?

The 410 is 4 ohms so that there is equal driver power sharing when used with the other 10" cabinets in the series. If you add a 210, the drivers share equally. Since all of the Subway amps are ratedcto drive 2 ohms, it's a good match. If your amp can't drive 2 ohms, you will be limited to a single 410.

I haven't read every page, and I'm not next to my current Walkabout to measure.

Is the new WD the same dimensions as the Walkabout?
Wondering if it would pop right into my Scout combo cab.

Same width and height, 2" less depth. Hardware should match up, but I haven't seen all of the combos, especially the earlier ones.

I don't remember seeing this asked when reading through the thread but I noticed the sweep of the parametric low band was moved up compared to the OG Walkabout. From a low point of 30hz to 80hz on the WD. Was this because of the addition of the sweepable HPF and the nature of the shelving bass control? I know some folks used that old parametric band to cut the super lows to clean up sound or maximize power output. I'm not sure the change would even affect me but I'm curious about that small detail.

The high pass filter makes an adjustment of the lowest and more practical.

 

[agedhorse]

Anyone know the release date for the WD800?

I would expect seeing them in the wild in a few weeks, maybe less.