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New mesa subway amps and cabs!

I don’t know how many times I encounter kids operating a cash that can’t make change unless the register tells them what to do. They can’t do basic math in their heads.

Many have no penmanship skills. No cursive writing.
I've been teaching my 10yo grandson to do math in his head. Other day he orders a burger and fries.
The teen behind the counter shortchanged him. He caught it and told the kid who doubted him so, he counted the change back to him as the kid should have done to him deducting the purchase from the amount he gave him arriving at the short change. The kid was flustered that he was showed up by a 10yo.
 
I've been teaching my 10yo grandson to do math in his head. Other day he orders a burger and fries.
The teen behind the counter shortchanged him. He caught it and told the kid who doubted him so, he counted the change back to him as the kid should have done to him deducting the purchase from the amount he gave him arriving at the short change. The kid was flustered that he was showed up by a 10yo.

OMG my high school math teacher would have ripped the counter boy a new one...he was old-school to the nth degree. He never collected homework - he'd just call on people at random to solve one of the homework problems at the chalkboard, showing and explaining your work. Heaven help you if, when doing a math operation, you 'carried' a number and wrote it down..."Can't you remember that number for five seconds?"

I learned more in his classes than in almost any other I took during high school. I thought the man hated us all equally, but when I went to pick up my final grade card from him, he actually smiled (I thought his face would break) and told me he thought that I'd do well whatever I decided on. Maybe he was just happy that I'd be gone. :)
 
This is very exciting. As an early adopter of the D800 and its companion cabs as well as an early adopter of the Walkabout way back when, this could be a game-changer. I retired my custom purple Walkabout/Scout combo to my living room a few years ago but loved gigging with it and using it with various combinations of diesel and RR cabs. The parametric EQ is like having an Alembic Superfilter on your amp. And if anyone remembers the M2000, the magic knob on that was the "bass frequency" combined with the "bass shift" switch on the FET channel side. So now it seems the high pass and damping knobs on the WD800 could hearken back to those features on the M2000. In short - a Walkabout, D800 and M2000 in a <10lb box for a grand. Like I need a 16th Mesa product...
 
Genuinely curious about the WD800. I’ve heard a lot of good things about the WalkAbout but have never played one.

What does the tube preamp paired up with a SS power section provide? Is it about achieving grind and/or compression on the front end? Something else?
 
I used to play the old WA and it had a top end sparkle, a mid growl and a very nice compression that I think came from the preamp tubes. I did som tube rolling and there was a difference so it had to do something to the sound.
The reason I sold it was my lust for power (swapped it for an Ampeg SVT-7), so now I might have to reconsider...
 
Genuinely curious about the WD800. I’ve heard a lot of good things about the WalkAbout but have never played one.

What does the tube preamp paired up with a SS power section provide? Is it about achieving grind and/or compression on the front end? Something else?

It's about retaining as much of the magic that the Walkabout had while at the same time improving those aspects that generated the most dissatisfaction and player challenges.
 
oh great, now I have to buy speakers that fly? I still don't have my hovercar!!!

Just don't bring the lawyers into this discussion


C’mon..... you don’t have one of these yet?
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Ouch. Nope, that’s gonna have a hard time sticking. I’m hoping that didn’t happen to you. And one of the reasons racetracks are safer than roads. They stop and clean it up.

Multiple broken ribs - thankfully nothing else...50 mph lowside. Almost $10K in damage to the bike, would have been totaled without the engine bars.

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I'm going to answer your comments in the most respectful way possible.

1. Screw holding properties don't matter one bit when you use assebly jigs, splay style staples, dado construction and advanced adhesives. Once the adhesives cure, 100% of the strength is generated within the glue line and is as strong as the wood itself. We don't use screws to hold the cabinet together, I can't think of any quality production cabinet shops that do (and I've been around more than a few).

2. Who buys their production sheet goods at HD or Lowes? The materials we use are simply not available there anyway.

3. There certainly are standards for thickness/flatness, warp and twist. They are very important for those of us who use precision CNC equipment, and result in a higher quality joints and more uniform production from piece to piece. If there were no standards, how do you buy say a 60" x 60" sheet of 18mm plywood and know that you aren't getting 58" x 57" 16.7mm? Because the standards and tolerances define what you are both buying and receiving.

4. T-Nuts are not an issue when properly installed in Poplar. There are specific production specifications that we use for the insertion of T-nuts that guarantee that they are firmly mated to the baffle. Again, this is another benefit of CNC machining as well as production tooling.

5. Who said anything about wanting resonance? Yes, proper bracing is important when designing any cabinet, and we have developed some fairly sophisticated bracing techniques that address this in accordance to the design goals. Perhaps you are unaware of this?

6. Electronics may be my PREFERRED work, but 6 years of engineering and degrees covers an awful lot of territory, including mechanical and structural disciplines. I am probably as qualified in these aspects of mechanical/structural as I am in electrical engineering, I just happen to enjoy designing amps, it's a bit more recreational to me.

Respectfully, I suggest that you might want to step back and reconsider that I could know more about this topic than you are giving me credit for, ESPECIALLY considering my track record doing exactly this successfully for a long time, for some significant clients and products. I came from the pro audio industry, both the manufacturing side as well as the touring side, developing products that are both current and well respected. You don't design flying speaker systems without understanding the structural aspects of materials and assembly methods.

Arguing that something can't be done, or can't be done well, or won't last, doesn't seem to make much sense in the face of tens of thousands of actual real world cabinets that TalkBass players have experience with that are doing exactly what you say can't be done, and have been doing so for 15-20 years without any issues. Somewhere there is a huge disconnect and frankly I can't follow your logic.

I was not criticizing the construction technique or quality of build of Mesa cabinets and never said that something can't be done or done well (other than t-nuts in poplar ply:) . I use screws rather than clamps or presses while the glue cures. Yes, a proper glue joint is stronger than the wood. A large percentage of DIYers use Lowes and HD. I was pointing out the quality differences in sheet goods from different suppliers. Not the correct forum for this info I realize:) And, of course there are standards for sheet good dimensions, but not flatness though it can be deduced easily enough by the number/thicknesses of laminations and material. And, you mentioned resonance. We've both been around the block more than a few times and probably share a lot of experiences.. I apologize for any offense, none was meant. My first job out of college was as an R&D engineer at Microwave Associates in Burlington, MA during the Vietnam war. And then the war ended, the job was less interesting and the music returned. I taught fine woodworking in Boston until 2013. In between there were years of playing/touring, and engineering. I share your passion for sound and like reading your posts. Please don't take it personal if I disagree or question. I enjoy discourse and remain a sponge for knowledge. Again, apologies for any offense I suppose I'm better on the phone or in person. Peace