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New Mike Adler TWELVE STRING BASS????

#50
Let me preface this by saying that I don't mean to say anythign harmful here, but only to present my doubts about this whole topic.

I play a 7 and have always been a devotee of extended range bass (that means do a search and see what I have to say on it). I've no doubt that the musicians that play these things are great and phenomenal - Stew, Al, Garry, whoever else. But it seems like it's becoming a race to see who can build the biggest, who can play the highest and lowest ... At what point do these instruments become showpieces rather than useful tools? I don't know, but everytime I see "LOOK AT MY NEW 11 STRING," I have to wonder what the motive is for this recent surge in big-bass building.

More and more, I keep thinking about building a one string fretless tuned to low F# just to counter all of this.
 
#51
mark beem said:
Ok, maybe you didn't get the joke..

So as you'd probably guess I don't agree with that whole "Jaco / only 4 strings" drivel and posted that comment in jest..

;)
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No, I knew that was in jest. I thought you were (sarcastically;) ) making an assumption that Jaco would have never gone beyond 4 strings. My mistake.:D
 
#52
Eric Cioe said:
everytime I see "LOOK AT MY NEW 11 STRING," I have to wonder what the motive is for this recent surge in big-bass building.
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Competition, there are a ton of builders chasing a minute market. Lots of guys have to create a niche to survive, if someone wants a 53 string and has money, build it, better than starving.

I kinda like the oddballs, tired of looking at J-Basses and Les Pauls always.
 
#53
Eric Cioe said:
Let me preface this by saying that I don't mean to say anythign harmful here, but only to present my doubts about this whole topic.

I play a 7 and have always been a devotee of extended range bass (that means do a search and see what I have to say on it). I've no doubt that the musicians that play these things are great and phenomenal - Stew, Al, Garry, whoever else. But it seems like it's becoming a race to see who can build the biggest, who can play the highest and lowest ... At what point do these instruments become showpieces rather than useful tools? I don't know, but everytime I see "LOOK AT MY NEW 11 STRING," I have to wonder what the motive is for this recent surge in big-bass building.

More and more, I keep thinking about building a one string fretless tuned to low F# just to counter all of this.
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Stated much better than I.
Couldn't agree more..........except for the.....one string...thing.:D
 
#55
Mark those are beautiful....but almost worthless in my world.

I play mostly corporate gigs where I play a wide range of music: Sinatra and standards one night, Rock, Country, R'n'B (even metal sometimes) on others. The kind of material you're going to encounter on most working gigs. The only times the upper range of those would be useful is on the "blue moon occasion" it's only me, drums, and guitar and I'll do some chording behind the guitar solos (something I can do now with my 5 & 6). Second, I have big hands and doing anything other than rudimentary "slap and pop" on those would be almost impossible with that string spacing (I just switched to Lakland 5s because of their 3/4" spacing for this reason).

If I ever did go beyond my 6 to a 7, it would be to go lower with an F# string as I frequently use a Hipshot on my B string for low A, so I can see where the F# string would be usable.
 
#56
jusplayinmybass said:
I see this degenerating into a "That's too many strings thread". And I don't want to do that so I'll just leave it alone and agree to disagree.

B Easy
Myron
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Degenerating?:hmm:
I know you probably didn't mean it like that, but it kind of makes it sound like the "too many strings" opinions are somehow not as worthy. This is what a Talk Forum is for. Nobody's name calling (yet :help: ).
 
#58
I mean degenerating in that when I read threads where people are constantly going back and forth about something, I tend to not want to read the thread. Especially where there are a couple pages of it. I get bored with that. I have better things to do with my time. You've made your point, as have I. I don't think that we are going to change each other's minds. So why continue? And i tend to see people doing this on the "That's too many strings threads." It's like reading about a Democrats and Republicans arguing. they are both convinced of their point, and aren't even listening to each other. I don't hink that I'm saying anything that you haven't heard before. And you certainly haven't said anything that I haven't heard. So are we really 'listening,' for lack of a better term, to each other? B Easy

Myron
 
#59
Oh Myron, I did not intend for that to happen at all with my statement and questions. As I said, I'm an ERB guy myself, and have always supported it. If a nineteen string is needed to express oneself, I say go for it. I know Mr. Goodman does just that. Stew too, and I'm sure the others. But it seems like there is this flow towards playing huge - not big, but huge - basses with a lot of people. I remember a post by a user called Warriorbass or something - he was a spammer - a few years back, talking about two 14 string necks on a single body (that is, doubleneck twice JT's size). Back then, everyone scoffed at the idea and laughed and told him it was physically impossible. Now it doesn't seem far out of reach, and I'm just wondering how good of a thing that is.
 
#60
Eric Cioe said:
Oh Myron, I did not intend for that to happen at all with my statement and questions. As I said, I'm an ERB guy myself, and have always supported it. If a nineteen string is needed to express oneself, I say go for it. I know Mr. Goodman does just that. Stew too, and I'm sure the others. But it seems like there is this flow towards playing huge - not big, but huge - basses with a lot of people. I remember a post by a user called Warriorbass or something - he was a spammer - a few years back, talking about two 14 string necks on a single body (that is, doubleneck twice JT's size). Back then, everyone scoffed at the idea and laughed and told him it was physically impossible. Now it doesn't seem far out of reach, and I'm just wondering how good of a thing that is.
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That's cool. I have no problem with your opinion or anyone else's. I just wanted to bow out of the discussion that was about to get into full swing before it got boring and a waste of time. I get tired of saying and hearing the same things. that's just me though. B Easy

Myron
 

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