New Origin Effects DCX Bass

[Origin_Effects]

Are those (black ones) available only through your website or will they be available through distributors (I'm curious about Thomann)?

These are available from dealers too. I'm not really allowed to disclose who has what orders with us. There are definitely EU dealers who have these in their store now (we always ship before launch so dealers can have stock release day).

- Jacob

 

[Parzival]

 

[Origin_Effects]

- Jacob

Also forgot to add. Because this is a departure from our usual production methods, the Black Edition run will initially be limited to 200 units per pedal. First batch went well (as far as production processes are concerned), so if people like them enough we'll do more. If people don't dig them as much as we do... Then yeah, it'll be limited to 200 units per pedal.

We've purposely not called these 'Limited Edition" because we're open to making more. They're certainly a favourite here in the office.

- Jacob

 

[odarellmc]

Also forgot to add. Because this is a departure from our usual production methods, the Black Edition run will initially be limited to 200 units per pedal. First batch went well (as far as production processes are concerned), so if people like them enough we'll do more. If people don't dig them as much as we do... Then yeah, it'll be limited to 200 units per pedal.

We've purposely not called these 'Limited Edition" because we're open to making more. They're certainly a favourite here in the office.

- Jacob

Y'all know people love black you don't even have to question or investigate. You guys make good products we like, you don't have to bait us... If you don't sell as many it's only because the market is saturated with silver ones, but you know it's not..

 

[Origin_Effects]

Y'all know people love black you don't even have to question or investigate. You guys make good products we like, you don't have to bait us... If you don't sell as many it's only because the market is saturated with silver ones, but you know it's not..

With any new production process, there are some pretty large risks for producing that stock. Diving head first into a multi-thousand piece order isn't something we can do without thought unfortionately. As mentioned, providing people like these and it makes sense to continue, we'll certainly be considering continuing the colour option. Hence the lack of 'Limited Edition' heavy fanfair.

- Jacob

 

[Gorilla Monsoon]

With any new production process, there are some pretty large risks for producing that stock. Diving head first into a multi-thousand piece order isn't something we can do without thought unfortionately. As mentioned, providing people like these and it makes sense to continue, we'll certainly be considering continuing the colour option. Hence the lack of 'Limited Edition' heavy fanfair.

- Jacob

I for one appreciate the effort. I also cannot understand any criticism here…I imagine few here can appreciate the ridiculous hoops and restrictions the EU places on simply black anodizing.

 

[Origin_Effects]

I for one appreciate the effort. I also cannot understand any criticism here…I imagine few here can appreciate the ridiculous hoops and restrictions the EU places on simply black anodizing.

Simply the limitations and practicalities of running and operating a small company, producing niche (ish) products, at low production volumes, with a small team, in the UK. Ultimately, there is only so much you can do at one time and when you start feeding in extra variables, there is always a careful walk you have to take. Make a mistake with a new process and suddenly you have a salaries worth of metalwork sitting on a shelf.

 

[Maxi Funkl]

Wish I had saw this yesterday just pulled the trigger yesterday on a DCX BASS but I'm still excited to finally get my hands on one.

 

[_Tay_]

Wish I had saw this yesterday just pulled the trigger yesterday on a DCX BASS but I'm still excited to finally get my hands on one.

Could always send it back and get a funky new black one.

 

[Maxi Funkl]

Could always send it back and get a funky new black one.

I checked the vendor I bought from won't be shipping them until Dec 1st. It's a matter of my patience level. LOL

Edit: They had already shipped my pedal and are even willing to send a return label on their dime if I switch today. Thinking about it but honestly waiting 2 to 3 weeks for a pedal I've been gassing for just a color difference its tough call for me.

 

[Erithon]

In this case, because this isn't something we've done before on account of the powder-coated enclosures. There are enough things that can go wrong in the lead up to a launch, adding an entirely new manufacturing process to the mix is asking for trouble. DCX BASS Launched a while before we thought about doing this (and we were also working on the Halcyon Gold launch the moment the DCX BASS went out, so there wasn't much time anyway). There are only so many people to work on things and generally we're all working on a lot at once.

The reason we tend not to release multiple colours on launch is also a really boring, quite practical reason. It is an awful lot to manage and get right. We are a small company, ordering, producing and selling pedals at pretty small volumes. If you prep 500 units for launch, but sell it in 3 colours day 1, figuring out how to split those 500 units between colour options presents a headache which quickly becomes a major problem if one colour doesn't sell how you expect and all your stock is locked up (not to mention, there are minimum order quantities on things like panels that would cause issues). If we were ordering multiple thousands for a launch and had space/capacity to just sit loads of unused parts on a shelf, it might be a bit easier. But yeah, it's just not managable at our scales. Doing the two colour 76s alongside the BASSRIG pedals on launch was a challange and that wasn't even a new product.

Maybe one day, but we'll need to be a bit bigger before it is feasible. At the moment we're like... 13 people in total full-time?

- Jacob

With any new production process, there are some pretty large risks for producing that stock. Diving head first into a multi-thousand piece order isn't something we can do without thought unfortionately. As mentioned, providing people like these and it makes sense to continue, we'll certainly be considering continuing the colour option. Hence the lack of 'Limited Edition' heavy fanfair.

- Jacob

The logistical and production challenges you've outlined make sense to me. I also want to thank you for the maturity of these responses which respectfully navigated criticism without escalation.

 

[Maxi Funkl]

Simply the limitations and practicalities of running and operating a small company, producing niche (ish) products, at low production volumes, with a small team, in the UK. Ultimately, there is only so much you can do at one time and when you start feeding in extra variables, there is always a careful walk you have to take. Make a mistake with a new process and suddenly you have a salaries worth of metalwork sitting on a shelf.

It's cool you guys even tried a new process to a successful line of popular pedals.

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

It makes a great Holiday gift for the ones who love smashing Bass tone!

 

[Johno Dunn]

It makes a great Holiday gift for the ones who love smashing Bass tone!

I've been a good boy, Santa. May I have one, please?

 

[Gorilla Monsoon]

Had the opportunity to speak with a very well respected luthier who told me that he had to change his whole operation for black anodizing in order to comply with EU Regulations.

 

[odarellmc]

Had the opportunity to speak with a very well respected luthier who told me that he had to change his whole operation for black anodizing in order to comply with EU Regulations.

That's fine but if it's such a pain, don't offer it, it's not like we asked for it..if it's too expensive then it's too expensive, if it really isn't because you're going to profit off of it, then we wouldn't care... So why tell us?

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

When O.E. offered the DCX Bass, a slight modification of the DCX Boost. They hoped it would be popular, but ya never know? Same with other offerings...

Spreading X number of BLACK etched housings across several of their pedals makes good sense from a cost perspective and perhaps those on the fence about an initial purchase would go for the BLACK as opposed to the standard finish, it's cool looking and it's the holiday season.

I have a BLACK unit OTW...I'm hoping for #007...

 

[odarellmc]

When O.E. offered the DCX Bass, a slight modification of the DCX Boost. They hoped it would be popular, but ya never know? Same with other offerings...

Spreading X number of BLACK etched housings across several of their pedals makes good sense from a cost perspective and perhaps those on the fence about an initial purchase would go for the BLACK as opposed to the standard finish, it's cool looking and it's the holiday season.

I have a BLACK unit OTW...I'm hoping for #007...

I never saw them pushing that modification.. probably why it didn't sell, no real push from OE.. that would be true for anything

 

[Origin_Effects]

I never saw them pushing that modification.. probably why it didn't sell, no real push from OE.. that would be true for anything

The DCX BOOST & BASS were released at the same time. I suspect the 'modification' they're referring to is just that we released two versions of what are essentially the same product. One optimised for guitar, one with small tweaks that make it more optimised for bass. (different internal gain staging, slightly tweaked EQ points and voicing).

DCX BOOST & BASS have gone well. Definitely makes us happy to see bass players recieving our efforts well and, we have plenty of bass considerations in our roadmap (as always though, we're keen to get them right, so they'll take a while to appear).

Spreading X number of BLACK etched housings across several of their pedals makes good sense from a cost perspective

Have you been looking through our windows? Because yeah, pretty much.

The last 2 years has been a journey of carefully getting more stuck-in with bass focused products and yeah, Origin Effects as a bass brand is an exciting thought for us at least. (and definitely exciting for my own selfish desires too). But yeah, keen on getting sonics right, lots of designing and studio listen testing to do!


- Jacob

 

[_Tay_]

The DCX BOOST & BASS were released at the same time. I suspect the 'modification' they're referring to is just that we released two versions of what are essentially the same product. One optimised for guitar, one with small tweaks that make it more optimised for bass. (different internal gain staging, slightly tweaked EQ points and voicing).

DCX BOOST & BASS have gone well. Definitely makes us happy to see bass players recieving our efforts well and, we have plenty of bass considerations in our roadmap (as always though, we're keen to get them right, so they'll take a while to appear).



Have you been looking through our windows? Because yeah, pretty much.

The last 2 years has been a journey of carefully getting more stuck-in with bass focused products and yeah, Origin Effects as a bass brand is an exciting thought for us at least. (and definitely exciting for my own selfish desires too). But yeah, keen on getting sonics right, lots of designing and studio listen testing to do!


- Jacob

Sounds like it's a blast designing these bass suited pedals. Awesome work