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New Origin Effects DCX Bass
- Thread starter Derek Williams
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Has anyone run this pedal through a frequency analyzer to see what frequencies are actually being boosted or cut with each of the frequency knobs? It seems pretty broad, in a good way, and I was just curious.
Origin Effects answered this earlier in the thread, though I suppose a frequency analysis would tell you exactly how wide the Q is and what other frequencies are caught up in its boosts/cuts.
Ah, I missed that. It must be a very wide Q, because I run an HPF at 60hz, and the LPF or Treble roll off is around 3.5-4k on my Revolt, but I still hear a very large difference in tone when boosting either the HF or LF knobs on the DCX
It's a big thread 
I suspect you are right about the wide Q. That's not uncommon with a 2-band EQ. I wouldn't be surprised if the DCX Boost/Bass's Q corresponds to the Q on the original UA 610--that would fit with Origin Effects' mission to repackage classic gear in high quality pedal-sized enclosures. But it might not be as wide as you think depending on the slope of your HPF and Revolt LPF. The Broughton HPF, for example, has a slope of 12dB per octave so it will still pass a decent amount of signal below the 60Hz where you run it (compared to, say, a more aggressive 36 dB/octave like the sfx micro-thumpinator--though the latter cannot be run at 60Hz).
I suspect you are right about the wide Q. That's not uncommon with a 2-band EQ. I wouldn't be surprised if the DCX Boost/Bass's Q corresponds to the Q on the original UA 610--that would fit with Origin Effects' mission to repackage classic gear in high quality pedal-sized enclosures. But it might not be as wide as you think depending on the slope of your HPF and Revolt LPF. The Broughton HPF, for example, has a slope of 12dB per octave so it will still pass a decent amount of signal below the 60Hz where you run it (compared to, say, a more aggressive 36 dB/octave like the sfx micro-thumpinator--though the latter cannot be run at 60Hz).
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It's a big thread
I suspect you are right about the wide Q. That's not uncommon with a 2-band EQ. I wouldn't be surprised if the DCX Boost/Bass's Q corresponds to the Q on the original UA 610--that would fit with Origin Effects' mission to repackage classic gear in high quality pedal-sized enclosures. But it might not be as wide as you think depending on the slope of your HPF and Revolt LPF. The Broughton HPF, for example, has a slope of 12dB per octave so it will still pass a decent amount of signal below the 60Hz where you run it (compared to, say, a more aggressive 36 dB/octave like the sfx micro-thumpinator--though the latter cannot be run at 60Hz).
Yep, it seems like it's boosting more in the 80-120 range for LF, and even down as low as 800-1k and above on the HF. It did get a little honky when I maxed out the HF while playing around.
It is, of course, possible that I don't know what I'm talking about. Whatever it is doing, I like it. It may widen the Q significantly at extreme settings.
Just got a DCX BASS and liking it very much. Question on the LEVEL control. This is simply the output gain, correct? No coloration, saturation, or drive effects. The DCX manual second sentence is confusing to me.
"LEVEL – Sets the output level from the pedal. Turn clockwise to push the input of your amp. Keep this control set lower if you want to get all your overdrive from the pedal."
Can someone clarify that second sentence? Does it mean that if the LEVEL is set higher you end up with pedal drive + more amp drive?
For my ampless application, the LEVEL is simply the output gain to my downstream compressor and DI, correct?
"LEVEL – Sets the output level from the pedal. Turn clockwise to push the input of your amp. Keep this control set lower if you want to get all your overdrive from the pedal."
Can someone clarify that second sentence? Does it mean that if the LEVEL is set higher you end up with pedal drive + more amp drive?
For my ampless application, the LEVEL is simply the output gain to my downstream compressor and DI, correct?
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Correct.
The manual is referring to amp dirt vs pedal dirt, and that the DCX can both, add dirt internally, and push an amp (or something else) into distortion.
The manual is referring to amp dirt vs pedal dirt, and that the DCX can both, add dirt internally, and push an amp (or something else) into distortion.
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Yes, this exactly. Without an amp to push, the LEVEL is simply the output gain/volume control.
It basically means you can boost the signal to possibly drive the input (preamp) of your amp. Some amps sound great when pushed that way, others not.
Gear4Music is legit, I’ve bought plenty from them. I imagine Origin is cheaper in the UK due to it being a local company.
If you are in the US I’ve had good luck with Thomann:
https://www.thomannmusic.com/origin_effects_dcx_bass_overdrive.htm
$248 plus shipping, no tax. Shipping will likely run you $25ish. Bonus is that it’s in stock, it’s out of stock at Gear4Music.
I tend to buy a couple of things when I order so the shipping costs are easier to swallow. Shipping has worked out to be nearly as fast as the free shipping from Sweetwater.
https://www.thomannmusic.com/origin_effects_dcx_bass_overdrive.htm
$248 plus shipping, no tax. Shipping will likely run you $25ish. Bonus is that it’s in stock, it’s out of stock at Gear4Music.
I tend to buy a couple of things when I order so the shipping costs are easier to swallow. Shipping has worked out to be nearly as fast as the free shipping from Sweetwater.
Now available in black. Not sure if I like the black edition, or the original better.
Origin_Effects
Commercial User
- Feb 12, 2018
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- British Boutique Effects Pedal Builders
Gonna just jump in a mo to prempt any confusion as I've had a couple comments elsewhere.
- DCX BASS & DCX BASS Black Edition feature the same circuit. It's just a colour variation (and a rad one in my opinion)
- If the black isn't your thing, the regular edition is very much still a production model.
If you have any questions, feel free to shoot them my way.
- Jacob
Two questions:
Are the whole enclosures in black, sides and all?
Got any blacker? (was that advertisement International, or just Australia?)
I don't know why you guys don't do this at release, knowing you're planning better colors but wait til we buy a ton before you release it, I just don't understand why a company would do that, and not only that but offer a limited run of your most popular colour. You're not going to offer an exchange to all the people that bought a silver one you didnt the same with the bass amp pedals. Guess we all should have just waited before we bought one I would have preferred a black one... Oh well
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Origin_Effects
Commercial User
- Feb 12, 2018
- 76
- 1,030
- Disclosures
- British Boutique Effects Pedal Builders
Two questions:
Are the whole enclosures in black, sides and all?
Got any blacker? (was that advertisement International, or just Australia?)
The entire enclosure is a black powdercoat over stainless steel. It's the first time we've played with the finish (hence the initial limited quantity). So yeah, it is the blackest black pedal we've ever made. The newsletter was international.
I don't know why you guys don't do this as release, knowing your planning better colors but wait til we buy a ton before you release it, I just don't understand why a company would do that. You're not going to offer an exchange... Guess it's time to break out the black magic markersI would love a black one... Oh well
In this case, because this isn't something we've done before on account of the powder-coated enclosures. There are enough things that can go wrong in the lead up to a launch, adding an entirely new manufacturing process to the mix is asking for trouble. DCX BASS Launched a while before we thought about doing this (and we were also working on the Halcyon Gold launch the moment the DCX BASS went out, so there wasn't much time anyway). There are only so many people to work on things and generally we're all working on a lot at once.
The reason we tend not to release multiple colours on launch is also a really boring, quite practical reason. It is an awful lot to manage and get right. We are a small company, ordering, producing and selling pedals at pretty small volumes. If you prep 500 units for launch, but sell it in 3 colours day 1, figuring out how to split those 500 units between colour options presents a headache which quickly becomes a major problem if one colour doesn't sell how you expect and all your stock is locked up (not to mention, there are minimum order quantities on things like panels that would cause issues). If we were ordering multiple thousands for a launch and had space/capacity to just sit loads of unused parts on a shelf, it might be a bit easier. But yeah, it's just not managable at our scales. Doing the two colour 76s alongside the BASSRIG pedals on launch was a challange and that wasn't even a new product.
Maybe one day, but we'll need to be a bit bigger before it is feasible. At the moment we're like... 13 people in total full-time?
- Jacob
Are those (black ones) available only through your website or will they be available through distributors (I'm curious about Thomann)?
