New Origin Effects DCX Bass

[projectapollo]

I don’t know if it would be a Noble killer, but if @Origin_Effects built a DCX “rig” as you described it would be more popular than either current bassrigs because it would have a much broader range of use

I say Noble killer because it addresses one of the Noble complaints about totally clean, no saturation, tone. It also improves on the CAPO design by adding a much better OD channel than the current CAPO "B-Side".

 

[NickyBass]

I say Noble killer because it addresses one of the Noble complaints about totally clean, no saturation, tone. It also improves on the CAPO design by adding a much better OD channel than the current CAPO "B-Side".

I like to think of the current DCX as the Noble 'enhancer.'

 

[NickyBass]

But, yeah, a DCX with all those features would certainly be something that I would check out as a potential replacement for the Noble. Two foot switches would be amazing. I'd be down for serial number 2.

 

[Evan J]

A lot of things cross our mind... The tricky part is nailing down what those sorts of things actually need to look like to make sense.

Doesn’t got to be a Swiss Army knife like the CAPO. The simplicity of the DCX is part of the appeal for me. It’s impossible to get bad tones.

I would just think of it as an expanded UA 610. Two stackable DCX circuits and a DI.
Maybe with some clever dip switches, it would work for bass and guitar.

This way it still feels like an ode to the 610.

Count me in for serial number 3.

 

[Parzival]

But, yeah, a DCX with all those features would certainly be something that I would check out as a potential replacement for the Noble. Two foot switches would be amazing. I'd be down for serial number 2.

I've been thinking about this suggestion being talked about and I am thinking, if you're gonna do it, do it. Here is my idea. I can sketch it out but may be hard to describe.

The pedal/box would be about the size of three Origin pedals (think a DCX plus a DCX plus a Cali76, the new one). It would basically be those three pedals in one with four separate footswitches.

- A DI out with separate level control to FOH and ground/lift switch on side.
- Top jacks consisting of In, Out, Send, and Return (for an effects loop).
- Left side of pedal is EQ. Would have Level, Gain, Low, Mid, and High knobs and a Mid Voice (freq.) switch. Two footswitches here for Bypass and EQ On/Off.
- Middle of pedal is Drive. Would have Level, Drive, and Tone (like a tilt EQ) knobs and a Pre/Post EQ switch. One footswitch for Drive On/Off.
- Right side of pedal is Cali76. Would have same knobs and metering with added Pre/Post switch to determine whether it is first or last in the chain. Footswitch for Cali On/Off.
- Maybe you could include an optional amp/cab sim that is defeatable and have choices like a default SVT or Fender voice and a few cab sims to choose from. Might need to be the size of four Origin pedals at this point, but that is still not that huge for what you would get.

This is a lot and I know it's pie in the sky. This would be along the lines of what JHS did with their new box. Would probably be about the same size. I don't know what the price point would be, but I bet a lot of folks would pay.

I guess looking at this, have Origin maybe do an Origin version of the JHS Punchline.

 

[ImTheOnlyOne]

What does DCX stand for? Direct Current Transformer?

 

[projectapollo]

I've been thinking about this suggestion being talked about and I am thinking, if you're gonna do it, do it. Here is my idea. I can sketch it out but may be hard to describe.

The pedal/box would be about the size of three Origin pedals (think a DCX plus a DCX plus a Cali76, the new one). It would basically be those three pedals in one with four separate footswitches.

- A DI out with separate level control to FOH and ground/lift switch on side.
- Top jacks consisting of In, Out, Send, and Return (for an effects loop).
- Left side of pedal is EQ. Would have Level, Gain, Low, Mid, and High knobs and a Mid Voice (freq.) switch. Two footswitches here for Bypass and EQ On/Off.
- Middle of pedal is Drive. Would have Level, Drive, and Tone (like a tilt EQ) knobs and a Pre/Post EQ switch. One footswitch for Drive On/Off.
- Right side of pedal is Cali76. Would have same knobs and metering with added Pre/Post switch to determine whether it is first or last in the chain. Footswitch for Cali On/Off.
- Maybe you could include an optional amp/cab sim that is defeatable and have choices like a default SVT or Fender voice and a few cab sims to choose from. Might need to be the size of four Origin pedals at this point, but that is still not that huge for what you would get.

This is a lot and I know it's pie in the sky. This would be along the lines of what JHS did with their new box. Would probably be about the same size. I don't know what the price point would be, but I bet a lot of folks would pay.

I guess looking at this, have Origin maybe do an Origin version of the JHS Punchline.

You mean like this JHS device?

 

[Parzival]

You mean like this JHS device?

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Yes, except an Origin version of something like that. All-in-one using the DCX and Cali76 as the base and possibly hints of the Bassrigs. Different control layout and controls more like the Origin pedals.

 

[Derek Williams]

What does DCX stand for? Direct Current Transformer?

610 in roman numerals

 

[ImTheOnlyOne]

610 in roman numerals

HA! Thanks.

Guess I rarely count to D in Latin

 

[IvanBassist]

610 in roman numerals

This just blew my mind haha

 

[Evan J]

610 in roman numerals

lol I have always wondered this but was too embarrassed to ask

 

[TodaysTomSawyer]

The DCX > Night Owl Edison combo has been a 'tube pedal' killer for me

 

[Ian774]

610 in roman numerals

Wooooow, I never expected that. Amazing.

 

[Origin_Effects]

What does DCX stand for? Direct Current Transformer?

610 in roman numerals

Nailed it.

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Also on combi-pedals joining X with Y. Our general philosophy around combining circuits is that; there isn't much benefit in doing it, but the downsides stack up pretty fast. Users get far more flexibility, and purchase far less redundant circuitry, when each design focuses on what its primary goal is.

The Cali76 Bass Compressor has over 400 components on its own, and the cost of our pedals basically comes down to, and scales with that circuit complexity. Combining them in the same enclosure saves £0. But if you own a comp already, ours or otherwise, it would increase the price of whatever it was combined with by £300.

Like most studio outboard, we think it's much more beneficial (and way more fun) to just make really good versions of individual things, and let players decide how and where they want to use them. If we were to make a big-boy-clean-DI-preamp, we'd want to focus on it being the best version of that.

 

[gonzkal]

Like most studio outboard, we think it's much more beneficial (and way more fun) to just make really good versions of individual things, and let players decide how and where they want to use them.

Not that my individual opinion matters much here, but I agree with this approach. The modularity with single specialized boxes is what makes pedalboard building so exciting.

 

[wolffire99]

If we were to make a big-boy-clean-DI-preamp, we'd want to focus on it being the best version of that.

The Origin Big Boy. You heard it here first

 

[NickyBass]

Nailed it.

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Also on combi-pedals joining X with Y. Our general philosophy around combining circuits is that; there isn't much benefit in doing it, but the downsides stack up pretty fast. Users get far more flexibility, and purchase far less redundant circuitry, when each design focuses on what its primary goal is.

The Cali76 Bass Compressor has over 400 components on its own, and the cost of our pedals basically comes down to, and scales with that circuit complexity. Combining them in the same enclosure saves £0. But if you own a comp already, ours or otherwise, it would increase the price of whatever it was combined with by £300.

Like most studio outboard, we think it's much more beneficial (and way more fun) to just make really good versions of individual things, and let players decide how and where they want to use them. If we were to make a big-boy-clean-DI-preamp, we'd want to focus on it being the best version of that.

This makes sense. And it's cool that you are here getting feedback and discussing ideas! So, tell us more about the Big Boy... Will it come in a blackout version?

 

[Evan J]

big-boy-clean-DI-preamp

Omg lines around the block. I’m there.

 

[projectapollo]

If we were to make a big-boy-clean-DI-preamp, we'd want to focus on it being the best version of that.

Please, pretty please, include the DCX saturation organics. And thanks for engaging with your on-line community in some design ideas!