NEW Phil Jones MICRO 7 Compact Combo!

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MICRO 7 (M-7)
Light and Portable Tone-To-Go
Tone-to-go just got more portable and affordable with the Phil Jones Bass MICRO 7 combo. The MICRO 7 is a single channel 50 Watt bass combo with a 7” driver and 3” tweeter. It measures less than a foot on all sides and weighs only 15 lbs. It is the most affordable and compact combo from PJB yet.

Power Output: 50 Watt (RMS)
Speaker: 1 x 7” Proprietary PJB woofer + 3” Transducer
EQ: 3-Band EQ (Treble, Mid, Bass)
Input: AUX-Input Jack, DC-Power Input Socket
Output: Line-Out, Headphone-Out
Dimensions (W x D x H): 12 x 9.7 x 9.8 inch
Weight: 15.5 lbs
Color: Black



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MY COMMENTS
I am curious as to the street price for this new combo and whether it would be loud enough for a rock band rehearsal (probably not, since I tried the Double Four BG-75 and as nice as it sounds, it simply was not loud enough).

My initial reaction to the M-7 is a little underwhelming. The MICRO 7 (M-7) is larger than the Double Four (BG-75) and the Bass Cub (BG-10), so the claim that the MICRO 7 is the “most compact combo from PJB yet” does not appear at first glance to be accurate. It is also heavier than either the Bass Cub or the Double Four and puts out less wattage. Perhaps the speakers make up for it, but we would have to hear it first. See the table I created below:

*	MICRO 7 (M-7)	Bass Cub (BG-100)	Double Four (BG-75)	Session 77
Output	50w	100w	70w	100w
Speakers	7" + 3"	2 x 5"	2 x 4"	2 x 7"
Size	95.06 cu in	84.24 cu in	51.33 cu in	194 cu in
Weight	15.5 lbs	13.2 lbs	8.7 lbs	28 lbs
Price[td]	$279	$599	$479	$399

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[basss]

Cool! The amps with 7 inch speakers seem to be their budget line so I'd expect it to be significantly cheaper than the other two you mentioned. That's probably how it will fit into the product lineup - it's not designed as a step up from the other two but a less expensive option.

Edit: It's listed at musicians friend for $279 - $200 less than a double four!

 

[PaulCISSA]

FWIW, I own a BG-100 and it was loud enough for an acoustic ensemble, I wouldn't consider it usable in my current 5-piece blues band. It's just not loud enough even at 100w.

I see the M-7 positioned as a compact practice amp with a competitive price point.

 

[selowitch]

FWIW, I own a BG-100 and it was loud enough for an acoustic ensemble, I wouldn't consider it usable in my current 5-piece blues band. It's just not loud enough even at 100w.

I see the M-7 positioned as a compact practice amp with a competitive price point.

Does anybody know the price point? I can’t see buying this when I already own the Double Four.

 

[Passinwind]

Does anybody know the price point?

See post #2.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/phil-jones-bass-micro-7-50w-1x7-bass-combo-amp

 

[selowitch]

See post #2.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/phil-jones-bass-micro-7-50w-1x7-bass-combo-amp

Pretty nice price. If I thought it could keep up in a rock-band rehearsal, I might be interested. But since I already own the Double Four, I don’t see this one being a good fit for me. I have a Markbass CMD 121P that I currently lug to practice.

The question I have been grappling with is whether the Double Four paired with the PB-100 (a 100-watt powered 2 x 5" cabinet) could be used for a rock band rehearsal without being drowned out—unfortunately, the BG-75 and the PB-100 are not terribly portable when carried together.

The M-7 would be good for solo practice, I wager—but not for any other purpose unless coupled with a powered extension cabinet, powered speaker, PA system, etc.

 

[sfmag1]

My only question is "Is it louder than the Double Four"?The blurb on it says that the main 7 inch speaker is super high efficiency so it might be. I use the 44 as my only amp on Jazz gigs. I have also used it outdoors with a battery with excellent results.

 

[selowitch]

The Briefcase and Briefcase Ultimate probably sound similar to the Double Four but are louder.

 

[sfmag1]

Size Matters

 

[Passinwind]

The M-7 would be good for solo practice, I wager—but not for any other purpose unless coupled with a powered extension cabinet, powered speaker, PA system, etc.

I think there's a pretty broad area between rock band w/drums and solo bass. My prospective application would be situations backing several mostly unamplified acoustic instruments, doing bluegrass, Americana, or jazz. No loud drummers or electric guitars in my world, pretty much ever.

 

[lug]

I guess the best question is "Which Phil Jones amp is best for Metal?"

 

[sfmag1]

Michael Abronda at PJB said the Micro 7 isnt as loud as the Double Four. It seems to be a real practice amp then, or good for acoustic gigs.

 

[porterbass]

Pretty nice price. If I thought it could keep up in a rock-band rehearsal, I might be interested. But since I already own the Double Four, I don’t see this one being a good fit for me. I have a Markbass CMD 121P that I currently lug to practice.

The question I have been grappling with is whether the Double Four paired with the PB-100 (a 100-watt powered 2 x 5" cabinet) could be used for a rock band rehearsal without being drowned out—unfortunately, the BG-75 and the PB-100 are not terribly portable when carried together.

The M-7 would be good for solo practice, I wager—but not for any other purpose unless coupled with a powered extension cabinet, powered speaker, PA system, etc.

I just saw this thread so I'm a bit late to the party... I actually just saw the Micro 7 online for the first time this morning. I hadn't heard of it previously.

@selowitch Regarding the volume with your Double Four... Have you tried it with a preamp in front of it? I found that the volume was low on the D4 for anything other than home practice, especially with my passive basses. I tried quite a few preamps in front of the D4 and it made a huge difference in the volume I could get out of it without it breaking up or seeming like I was pushing it too hard. Any preamp should help with this.

I found the best preamp set up in front of it was also with an HPF (high pass filter), Some preamps have the HPF control built in (like the Mesa Rosette), but you can get a separate HPF if your preamp doesn't have it. Not sure if this would be enough for your rehearsal as only you would know that.

 

[basss]

I just saw this thread so I'm a bit late to the party... I actually just saw the Micro 7 online for the first time this morning. I hadn't heard of it previously.

@selowitch Regarding the volume with your Double Four... Have you tried it with a preamp in front of it? I found that the volume was low on the D4 for anything other than home practice, especially with my passive basses. I tried quite a few preamps in front of the D4 and it made a huge difference in the volume I could get out of it without it breaking up or seeming like I was pushing it too hard. Any preamp should help with this.

I found the best preamp set up in front of it was also with an HPF (high pass filter), Some preamps have the HPF control built in (like the Mesa Rosette), but you can get a separate HPF if your preamp doesn't have it. Not sure if this would be enough for your rehearsal as only you would know that.

Big +1 to this. For jazz gigs I use a fishman pre in front of my d4 and it makes a noticeable difference in sound and volume, much more so than when I use it with other amps. The pre allows me to keep up with jazz drummers. I wouldn't be able to without it.

 

[selowitch]

Big +1 to this. For jazz gigs I use a fishman pre in front of my d4 and it makes a noticeable difference in sound and volume, much more so than when I use it with other amps. The pre allows me to keep up with jazz drummers. I wouldn't be able to without it.

Interesting. My assumption (and I am a much better musician than I am an electrical engineer) was that a preamp cannot boost the volume of an amplifier because ... well, it's a preamp. Is that assumption incorrect? I bought a Phil Jones BigHead Pro HA-2—would that possibly boost the volume on my Phil Jones Double Four BG-75.

 

[porterbass]

Interesting. My assumption (and I am a much better musician than I am an electrical engineer) was that a preamp cannot boost the volume of an amplifier because ... well, it's a preamp. Is that assumption incorrect? I bought a Phil Jones BigHead Pro HA-2—would that possibly boost the volume on my Phil Jones Double Four BG-75.

YES! That makes a GREAT preamp in this situation. One of the preamps I tried with my D4 was my PJB BigHead HA-1. Worked great.

On a side note, how do you like the HA-2? I've been curious about that one.

 

[selowitch]

YES! That makes a GREAT preamp in this situation. One of the preamps I tried with my D4 was my PJB BigHead HA-1. Worked great.

On a side note, how do you like the HA-2? I've been curious about that one.

I just got it so I am still figuring out how best to use it. It's nice for practicing with the Phil Jones H-850 headphones. I am looking forward to trying it with GarageBand on my iPad. It's just a bit heavier and bulkier than I hoped, but it is a cool piece of kit. Not cheap, but the sound quality is quite good.

 

[sfmag1]

Good drummers can play with less Volume. I can use the D4 without a preamp for Jazz and even outdoors with a battery.

 

[Djadja]

Interesting. My assumption (and I am a much better musician than I am an electrical engineer) was that a preamp cannot boost the volume of an amplifier because ... well, it's a preamp. Is that assumption incorrect? I bought a Phil Jones BigHead Pro HA-2—would that possibly boost the volume on my Phil Jones Double Four BG-75.

If the preamp is making things louder, what it is doing is increasing the amount of signal coming into the amp.

 

[selowitch]

If the preamp is making things louder, what it is doing is increasing the amount of signal coming into the amp.

Sure, but isn't the loudness of an amplifier strictly a function of its output (i.e., the amplitude of the signal sent through the speakers)?