Double Bass New! Pirastro Perpetual Double Bass strings

[prhine]

Do they include the new G in the sets now or do you need to special order? Gonna buy some perps soon. Thanks.

 

[Francois Blais]

They're still prototypes.
Not publicly available yet.

 

[Timm]

Man, think I might just have to try these when it comes out.
Using Spiro mittel E and weich A/DG now…
Could use a string that is a little warmer, a little easier to bow, but still cuts through a drummer with sticks..
Would these be a good match??

 

[Ben Rolston]

I also got one from Pirastro, as a potential replacement for an Oliv G over Spiro Mitts. Its a very cool string and I'm excited to check it out more in the future. I took it off for now because I've got some Django style gigs next week that the Oliv is just too perfect for. These clips are about 10mins after the string went on, pretty good sound I think! The feel is slightly thinner and slightly more tense than the Oliv, but not by much. Its absolutely a steel string in feel, sound, response, etc. so would take a bit of adjustment for me. Nice bow sound / feel too!

 

[Ben Rolston]

Gotta practice 1 string walking more often

 

[bherman]

Now that Perps have been out for a while, does anyone have any experience with lifespan? Until Perps I've largely been a Spiro user and never worried about ho long they were good for. Y current set of perps are going on 1 1/2 yrs. Still seem ok but have no point of reference about when they might run out of gas....

 

[TroyK]

Honestly, I have the original set that I got still on my bass. I didn't have a regular gig schedule during Covid, so it's tough to really compare, but well over a year and they've mellowed a bit, but they're not dead. I have a couple of gigs booked and I'll probably order a new set, but may wait for this G+ string to materialize before I do.

Silks and windings look new. It's a steel core string, it's not going to be overly delicate.

 

[flatback]

This new string has a ballsy loudness that is really great. I spent the day practicing in the park in a quiet redwood grove and checking it out and I am a convert. With Perps underneath the heavy G feels acts and sings like a lead string. Like you will want to play melodies up and down it and let them stand out a bit. In that way it is like having an Oliv on top (when I have an Oliv on top I play it as it's own voice melodically). But when you drop in to comping it pings and percusses and has a nice sustain.

 

[bherman]

This new string has a ballsy loudness that is really great. I spent the day practicing in the park in a quiet redwood grove and checking it out and I am a convert. With Perps underneath the heavy G feels acts and sings like a lead string. Like you will want to play melodies up and down it and let them stand out a bit. In that way it is like having an Oliv on top (when I have an Oliv on top I play it as it's own voice melodically). But when you drop in to comping it pings and percusses and has a nice sustain.

I hope it is available soon - sounds like a great addition to the base set!

 

[buckthorn]

I think Pirastro ought to send one to everyone on this thread who bought Perpetuals.... ;-)

I also got one from Pirastro, as a potential replacement for an Oliv G over Spiro Mitts. Its a very cool string and I'm excited to check it out more in the future.

 

[Fran Diaz]

I think Pirastro ought to send one to everyone on this thread who bought Perpetuals.... ;-)

+1 I lo my Perpetuals with the Oliv G and my only problem with the G was that it was too thin.

 

[flatback]

I think Pirastro ought to send one to everyone on this thread who bought Perpetuals.... ;-)

Or Monsieur,
you might write them a nice note expressing interest in such a string and see what that gets you. Pirastro are fine people who care a lot about what you think of their offerings and tend to be accommodating. However if you think you are entitled to it, because their previous attempts at making things better for you didn't meet with your expectations, I can't be sure....

 

[buckthorn]

No entitlement intended. I thought the the wink might convey that I was not being serious. Oh well.

Or Monsieur,
you might write them a nice note expressing interest in such a string and see what that gets you. Pirastro are fine people who care a lot about what you think of their offerings and tend to be accommodating. However if you think you are entitled to it, because their previous attempts at making things better for you didn't meet with your expectations, I can't be sure....

 

[flatback]

no worries. The previous G string I personally (up against many other G strings) wasn't bad, was better then many. This new one seems to be a genuine effort to listen to bass players closely and do what they want exactly. I am so digging it (It is steel not gut so I'm gunna always say that for comparison sake) immensely.
I highly doubt they are following this thread though...

 

[16fuss]

I really love the original G-string. I will not even try the new one. Probably

 

[Greg Clinkingbeard]

I really love the original G-string. I will not even try the new one. Probably

Me either. Pirastro is attempting to fix Thomastik’s issue with the Spirocore G.
Perp’s are just fine.

 

[sean_on_bass]

Honestly i have never really had an issue with the Spiro G, or Perp G for that matter. They seem to balance well with the other strings in their respective sets. While Pirastro messing with the G formula is kind of cool, what i'd really like to see is a heavier set of Perps Something more in the Spiro Mitt territory, since those are my favorite strings ever.

 

[Bar Star]

(For my bluegrass/Americana rep and Simandl practice routine) I thought the original Perpetual G was less “metallic” and easier to bow on my hybrid than the G from Spiro Weich set that it replaced. I liked the bounciness of the whole set on that bass too.

I have sold that bass and now have the Spiro Weich set on a fully carved German shop bass. I’m breaking in the bass with them and will put on the Perpetual set in the future for a better a/b comparison.

Having said all that…after watching @TroyK’s recent string journey and hearing how much he liked the Mitt G I would be interested to see how a beefier Perpetual G sounds/feels at some point.

 

[flatback]

Honestly i have never really had an issue with the Spiro G, or Perp G for that matter. They seem to balance well with the other strings in their respective sets. While Pirastro messing with the G formula is kind of cool, what i'd really like to see is a heavier set of Perps Something more in the Spiro Mitt territory, since those are my favorite strings ever.

Dude,
I have been thinking over and over, "Hey this G is grand, I would play a whole set of them" I even wrote back to Adrian at Pirastro saying just that. I would too. THe G has that "answer to Spiro" quality about it, loud, quick, big ping, but what it doesn't have is the Spiro G whine past the F.

 

[Sam Dingle]

Now that Perps have been out for a while, does anyone have any experience with lifespan? Until Perps I've largely been a Spiro user and never worried about ho long they were good for. Y current set of perps are going on 1 1/2 yrs. Still seem ok but have no point of reference about when they might run out of gas....

My first set was on for a year and a half and sounded great with about 30 hours a week on them (grad school and gigs). my 2nd set that now has a new g on top is a covid year old so probably around 6 months of regular playing (g is new, im speaking of the EAD). I personally liked the bright string sound and would change my spiros every year when i was gigging 6 nights a week so I think you're on track to get at least 2 years of good sound out of them. when they are new though on my bass that first month is really really bright.