AFAIK, those are different beasts. Noble is clean tube preamp/DI, ETDI is a clean tube DI box, Beta V is primarily a dirt pedal...
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New SolidGoldFX Beta V Bass Preamp Pedal
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AFAIK, those are different beasts. Noble is clean tube preamp/DI, ETDI is a clean tube DI box, Beta V is primarily a dirt pedal...
Just thinking out loud here, I’ve been obsessing with the LPF dial. It has much effect compared to the switch. The only thing I can see is that it may be a short-range low pass filter, while the switch is a broader-range, and perhaps steeper, filter.
For instance, Switch 1 might drop the filter to, say, 1KHz, walling off treble frequencies. Switch 2 might drop to, say, 300 Hz, cutting deep into the middle frequencies, hence the mid-scoop.
The LPF dial might fine-tune this LPF, allowing it to move +- a couple hundred Hz, a range which would vary along with the exponential scale of frequencies.
The Presence dial is simply a Treble, adjusting the volume of a fixed band of treble frequencies. It has much more effect on high end than the LPF dial.
Seen this way, one can see how it can make sense to turn one up and the other down.
For instance, Switch 1 might drop the filter to, say, 1KHz, walling off treble frequencies. Switch 2 might drop to, say, 300 Hz, cutting deep into the middle frequencies, hence the mid-scoop.
The LPF dial might fine-tune this LPF, allowing it to move +- a couple hundred Hz, a range which would vary along with the exponential scale of frequencies.
The Presence dial is simply a Treble, adjusting the volume of a fixed band of treble frequencies. It has much more effect on high end than the LPF dial.
Seen this way, one can see how it can make sense to turn one up and the other down.
Well I decided to put the sgfx back on the board.
the lpf does definitely attenuate highs and the switch seems to change where it is applied. One must control the frequency and the other must control the attenuation level, but I’m still not sure.
however at low gain settings and in a mix it sounds really great adding some nice drive and color. Too much gain and it gets “fizzy” to me.
the lpf does definitely attenuate highs and the switch seems to change where it is applied. One must control the frequency and the other must control the attenuation level, but I’m still not sure.
however at low gain settings and in a mix it sounds really great adding some nice drive and color. Too much gain and it gets “fizzy” to me.
This pedal is best for me with subtle settings. It just brings a little something to the sound.
It’s not a fussy pedal to get useful tones. I also have the Broughton SVpre and Scorpion. They sound much nicer on their own, but the Beta V is by far the most useful and useable in a mix.
it’s good with different Basses as well.
IME not every pedal does this sort of easy flexibility
The new Origin Effects DCX Bass looks oddly similar to the Beta V, but quite a bit more expensive.
- Feb 16, 2008
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and IMO, quite a bit better. i have two DCX bass's and returned my BetaV.
Similar seeming controls but to me they sound pretty different. The SG eq seems to have more range and the saturation has a different character. The DCX seems much tighter and more precise until you switch to OD mode, which I’m not a huge fan of.
- Feb 16, 2008
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- 23,638
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- John K Custom Basses
the BetaV distorted with my passive basses even with the gain at minimum. i just couldn't get a good sound out of it (even though others may like it), whereas the DCX sounds great to me, running it clean or dirty,
If anyone is still interested here is the LPF dial explanation from Greg at SGFX.
“I hope you're enjoying your Beta! The switch and knob are part of the same circuit. On the switch, you have 2 filter values - center is bypassed. The knob controls the amount of filtering applied when the switch is set to the left or right position. In the center, the circuit is bypassed and the knob does nothing.”
So, that dial adjusts the LEVEL of filtering, the switch sets the FREQUENCY of the filter, which I can sort of understand. First time I see it put this way. Yet their manual states that the dial ADJUSTS the frequency, the switch SETS the frequency, which didn’t make sense to me nor my hearing.
“I hope you're enjoying your Beta! The switch and knob are part of the same circuit. On the switch, you have 2 filter values - center is bypassed. The knob controls the amount of filtering applied when the switch is set to the left or right position. In the center, the circuit is bypassed and the knob does nothing.”
So, that dial adjusts the LEVEL of filtering, the switch sets the FREQUENCY of the filter, which I can sort of understand. First time I see it put this way. Yet their manual states that the dial ADJUSTS the frequency, the switch SETS the frequency, which didn’t make sense to me nor my hearing.
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Using a Fretless 2EQ Stingray with Chromes
the Dreadbox is a VCA compression
I really like this into my old Ashdown Klystrom 400
the Dreadbox is a VCA compression
I really like this into my old Ashdown Klystrom 400
In regards to the Beta V - can it cop the tones of the Beta DLX (for anyone who has experience with both pedals)? I really liked what the Beta DLX does, but it did increase bass by default that you couldn't easily remove. I'd like to have a version that could do the super fat original Beta/Beta DLX tones, but could also do brighter/cutting overdrive with the fiddling of knobs.
Can the Beta V achieve this?
Can the Beta V achieve this?
How does the Beta V compare to the Beta Mk II?
Specifically, the overdrive/gain section. Can it do low gain tube amp breakup?
Specifically, the overdrive/gain section. Can it do low gain tube amp breakup?
I have never used the SGFX Beta DLX
I would not describe the SGFX as a “bright/cutting overdrive “ but I’m generally not looking for that type of sound.
I have never used the SGFX Beta MkII
In my opinion the SGFX Beta V excels at lo fi , low gain, tube amp style. This is with flatwound strung instruments both active and passive
Using my solid state amps then checking with my Ashdown CTM-300 Valve Amp there’s definitely different options to “simulate “ a Valve amp using SGFX Beta V into a solid state amp
Hi John
I’ve been thinking about this for a while. I basically have to put the SGFX Beta V on ridiculous levels and hammer the B string on an active V to get any “distortion”.
Given how much I’ve learned or caught information/ideas from you over the years (even more helpful given my location)
I’m wondering if it was possible you received a defective unit.
