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New Tal Wilkenfeld clip-yummy
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Labels really suck deep down in the reality of things.
Myself and a friend are usually called the future of the chicago blues. I dont like that at all. You cant pin an entire style on one person. Even the inventor of that style..
Yes you can accurately argue Bird invented Bebop, but you cant say it died with him.
Understood, marketing and hype are just that.
She happens to be.... a girl, and oh, wow, she plays bass, and oh wow, shes good. Unfortunately many see it in that order. They let the eyes see but not let the ears hear.
I wish her the best in her career, life, etc, etc. And next time if I see her at namm, I wont get stupid and clam up. =)
Myself and a friend are usually called the future of the chicago blues. I dont like that at all. You cant pin an entire style on one person. Even the inventor of that style..
Yes you can accurately argue Bird invented Bebop, but you cant say it died with him.
Understood, marketing and hype are just that.
She happens to be.... a girl, and oh, wow, she plays bass, and oh wow, shes good. Unfortunately many see it in that order. They let the eyes see but not let the ears hear.
I wish her the best in her career, life, etc, etc. And next time if I see her at namm, I wont get stupid and clam up. =)
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one of my fav drummers ever on that clip. vinnie colaiuta. .. sorry i dont mean to take all the glory away from tal's clip or anything, but damn im really into that drummer....
if u really wanna hear him smoke get the john patitucci song called scophile from sketchbook..... and the song spaceships too.... amazing. vinnie colaiuta!!!!!
if u really wanna hear him smoke get the john patitucci song called scophile from sketchbook..... and the song spaceships too.... amazing. vinnie colaiuta!!!!!
?? what rack. Nice poise and groove for a youngin'. As long as she keeps her " nose clean", we'll be enjoying her groove for years. Unfortunatel many female players were some marketing execs idea, this one is the real deal.
I hate these guys that know nothing about bass that try to make it sound like they know something about bass when they're interviewing a bass player...
Tal definitely has a nice groove, tone, and good taste; but let's face it, her looks are definitely responsible for much of the hype. Not that this is anything new; tennis and racecar driving immediately come to mind. She is quite a talent, but IMO her talent doesn't equal the exposure that she's received-- Which is nothing against her, just the circumstance.
In these situations, it seems that people either thrive off the pressure, continue growing producing better results (in general here, not just music); Burn out or peak early from the premature exposure/fame; or get into trouble with any number of things... drugs probably being the most prevalent.
I wouldn't pretend to know what she's like, based on the little bit I'v seen of her on tv/internet, but I certainly hope that she's of the "continue's growing artistically and producing more good music" camp, because I dig what she's doing now
In these situations, it seems that people either thrive off the pressure, continue growing producing better results (in general here, not just music); Burn out or peak early from the premature exposure/fame; or get into trouble with any number of things... drugs probably being the most prevalent.
I wouldn't pretend to know what she's like, based on the little bit I'v seen of her on tv/internet, but I certainly hope that she's of the "continue's growing artistically and producing more good music" camp, because I dig what she's doing now
She's a talented young player , especially considering the short period she's been at it. I first caught her with Jeff Beck . I wish her all the success in the world.
There are tons of new Tal vids up of the current tour she's doing with Jeff Beck.
She's running the show on this one and it's a beautiful thang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRghs-dB9BA&feature=related
She's running the show on this one and it's a beautiful thang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRghs-dB9BA&feature=related
she's really good. Honestly, I'm not a big jazz enthusiast, so I don't know if that is considered "great", but she's got much better chops than me. Very cool.
This is entirely true. I don't believe the "other" factor in her ludicrously fast climb to stardom is necessarily her age, sex or looks, but an extraordinary amout of LUCK. Yet strangely I haven't seen a single comment such as "Dang, she sure was lucky to get to where she is so darned fast!" Maybe nobody has touched on this for fear of being seen as trying to deject from her amazing talent or of being labeled as jealous. (Of course, we're all lying if we claim that we're not the least bit jealous--it's only natural.)
Now that everybody is lighting torches and grabbing their pitchforks, I'll put in my disclaimer: Tal is an excellent bass player, and she FULLY DESERVES all the breaks, luck and success she has had, as well as all the fame and fortune that is sure to follow.
That said, she could not possibly have come this far this fast--Sadowsky endorsement "after playing bass for only a few months" ([This invalid link has been removed]), playing with Jeff Beck by age 21, etc.--without an amazing amount of talent AND luck.
Everybody who has ever made it in the music industry--the super-talented and the absolutely-no-talent alike-- has been lucky to one degree or another, whether they had an easy road to success or struggled for decades before making it big. They were lucky to be related to someone in the music industry or to have Brian Epstein as a manager or to somehow get their demo into the hands of the one person who could do something about it. And even if Tal is the best bass player on the planet--and I'm not saying that she is or isn't--her meteoric rise must be attributed in a large degree to luck.
Now that she's where she is, I sincerely believe that her talent will keep her on top for decades to come, while others similarly lucky but less talented will quickly become yesterday's news. (Those who would that I be hanged, please remember this paragraph.)
So at this stage in her career, I see someone who is very talented and very lucky. In a few years I'm sure I'll forget about the luck and see only the talent.
Meanwhile, I am fairly confident that there are men and women out there who are as good as Tal, maybe better (and as young as Tal, possibly younger) who will never be known outside their own circle of friends or their local community. If they decide to move to L.A. or NYC, they will end up working a day job and will gig locally when they can. No world tours. No endorsement deals. I'd love to meet some of these folks and watch them play and learn from them.
I hesitated with this post, because I'm sure people will imagine its being titled, "Life Isn't Fair, Life Isn't Fair: Living in an Unjust World."
That's not my point. I'm merely stating a fact and would like to ask, am I the only one who sees that talent AND luck were necessary to get to this point? Are some people afraid that acknowledging luck and applauding true talent are mutually exclusive?
Thanks for listening. I stand with my back to the wall, a cigarette in my lips, and a blindfold over my eyes.
I just think Tal is really skilled for her age. By the way who says ''yummy"? If I see that in a thread title again I will probably scream.
I agree, both with the fact that she is frighteningly talented, and with your take on Yummy.
She really reminds me of a classical child prodigy, with everybody watching in slack-jawed awe.
She really reminds me of a classical child prodigy, with everybody watching in slack-jawed awe.
Better than any 18 year old I've ever heard or taught, regardless of gender.
FWIW, I'd sooner sub out a gig to her than to the chopsier guys mentioned above.
Dear God, I pray the future of jazz is more like this and less like the 80's
fusion wankery that leaves such a bad taste in peoples' mouths.
Fantastic feel, big ears, and no ego. I only wish more of the guys on the scene here, NYC, and LA had at least two of these traits.
FWIW, I'd sooner sub out a gig to her than to the chopsier guys mentioned above.
Dear God, I pray the future of jazz is more like this and less like the 80's
fusion wankery that leaves such a bad taste in peoples' mouths.
Fantastic feel, big ears, and no ego. I only wish more of the guys on the scene here, NYC, and LA had at least two of these traits.
Close your eyes the next time you listen to her play. Then make a judgment.
I know it's hard. I was personally fixated on the boob hanging over the top of the bass during the solo at the Jeff Beck Crossroads performance.
I know it's hard. I was personally fixated on the boob hanging over the top of the bass during the solo at the Jeff Beck Crossroads performance.
IMHO For me, not much more (save for their playing) tells me more about a musician and in particular Bassists and drummers than the "FACE". Especially when uncontrived and pure in the emotion of living for that very moment in time. It's a feeling (look) I try to tap into as much as possible.
Go Tal Go!
