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New Tech 21 VT Bass 300 Head!

#221
iamthebassman said:
Who doesn't send a signal to the board these days? I can't remember the last time I played a show with just my amp, has to be YEARS.
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I played 1 show where we didn't mic everything. (In the last 8 or so yrs.)
And that was a VERY small place.So small ,that a small combo amp could have prolly done the trick.(So low wattage wouldn't be an issue in that instance anyway.)

;)
 
#222
Threads like these are fun. it's clear, at the end of the day, everyone has very different wants and needs. lots of folks might cry out that this thing isn't a micro head... but there's clearly a large segment of the market that either doesn't trust or doesn't want a micro, be it for image reasons or otherwise. TC Electronics just introduced a new line... where they take all the features of the RH450 and stuff it in a bigger, uglier box (probably at a lower price point, admittedly). I'm sure that bigger box will appeal to a lot of folks who think a micro looks "lame" or is too expensive, or even if they just don't stop to think about the weight. If someone is used to an SVT, the idea of a 30lb SS head still sounds awfully light.

Interesting fact: when I play shows here in LA, primarily in indie rock circles, I have NEVER ONCE seen a micro head in use. Sure, most everyone plays Ampeg stuff (tube or otherwise), but I make it a point to pay attention to rigs, for both local bands or the larger touring acts that come through. I've seen my fair share of GK, SWR, Ashdown (quite often, surprisingly), Peavey, Traynor, Orange, Fender, vintage Acoustic, Sunn... but NEVER ONCE a micro head. Not that it wouldn't work, but the guys I play shows with have no interest in that kind of thing. Doesn't mean they're right or wrong, but there is definitely a market where weight isn't top priority. When you start going to hard rock and metal shows (which I personally love, even though I don't play it) the idea of a lightweight rig almost becomes a joke. Diff'rent strokes, as they say.

EDIT: Now that I just bought a Walkabout, things might get crazy in the LA indie rock world ;-)
 
#223
This thread is more addictive than crack!

For all complainers like myself, I just thought of something that may curb your disappointment (if any) and this has yet to be mentioned in this thread (I think.)

With all due respect to Tech 21, perhaps they are limited, either by funds or machinery, to what they have at their disposal now?

It's not that they aren't listening or that they don't want to give us Blend knobs, Speakon outs, or Class D amp sections.

If you look at their products, they usually take the same few form factors, each drilled with nearly the same number of holes, in the exact same places, with similar other hardware. Just the silk screen differs on them.

In the case of the VT Bass, its "Mid" knob displaced a potential "Blend" knob in both the VT Deluxe and the new VT 300 incarnations. Previous products in the same chassis featured those Blend knobs. Perhaps the necessary re-tooling could not be accomplished at this time?

Same with the front-panel mute switch complaint. The Landmark 300 also was sans mute on the chassis. The legacy continues.

Missing your Speakon outs? They may be industry standard on amps and cabs now, but not way back when the Landmark 300 was first introduced.

Just a guess.

All I know is that I will continue to support Tech 21 and its products, and purchase those which fit my needs and budget.
 
#228
lo-freq said:
I'd say, a substantial number of bass players.
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i find that odd as well.... never played a club or bar that didn't DI or mic the cab. played some oddball lofts or art spaces that don't, and sure, if you're playing a backyard or something, but pretty much any gig my band would actually take will have some kind of PA. but i suppose there's a wide, wide world of other types of gigs I have yet to play.
 
#230
I joined in the wish-listing for more features earlier, but I really want to hear this amp. The 300 watt thing doesn't scare me- I don't play that loud and it seems there are many amps that can sound louder (or quieter) than their output in watts might indicate- I won't really know till I hear it with a band.
 
#231
Also when my mate ` Remo` went out & made the ` Blue Light Mod ` available for TB`ers that wanted their RPM or RBI with a Blue Light instead of the traditional Red one, it went over the top. He couldnt keep up with the order as i think he got a hold of only 25 lamps & sold`em basically overnight to TB.
These are little things but are a bigger deal for the TB community.
 
#232
CharlieC said:
This thread is more addictive than crack!

With all due respect to Tech 21, perhaps they are limited, either by funds or machinery, to what they have at their disposal now?

If you look at their products, they usually take the same few form factors, each drilled with nearly the same number of holes, in the exact same places, with similar other hardware. Just the silk screen differs on them.

In the case of the VT Bass, its "Mid" knob displaced a potential "Blend" knob in both the VT Deluxe and the new VT 300 incarnations. Previous products in the same chassis featured those Blend knobs. Perhaps the necessary re-tooling could not be accomplished at this time?
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I'm pretty sure this is the smart way to stay in business.
Re-tool? for a feature that is not necessary?
For a "spin off"/variation of the vtbass pedal?


They are a company that makes good products.
Now Its clear that they are capable of making clever business decisions as well.


Its brilliant.
(Hopefully we get some of the cost savings) :D


As far as the speakons..I thought that was addressed..
JMO?..


.
 
#233
Ive wanted Tech21 to make an RBI or RPM with Tubes since i got them both. Maybe they can stick them both together with Tubes installed.I know theres a heap of Tube Preamps out there but theres nothing from Sansamp in this field.Again i know they dont make Tube stuff but they should !!!!
BBE has 2 indentical Preamps one with Tubes & one without.
Tech21 can adjust the price for the extras invovled ??
Im waiting for this to occur.
 
#236
I'm OK with size and power. I actually got really excited when I saw this. I love my pedal, but the novelty of the official amp is appealing. One thing I would like to see is a face lift. This would be pretty bad ass if they put it in a case and made it look similar to an SVT. Like Kustom did with their 300watt hybrid. But I know Tech21 loves the rack mount.

With my VT pedal, I can't imagine ever using anything else (guess I've never had a chance to try boutique), so this amp would be awesome some day.
 
#237
CharlieC said:
This thread is more addictive than crack!

For all complainers like myself, I just thought of something that may curb your disappointment (if any) and this has yet to be mentioned in this thread (I think.)

With all due respect to Tech 21, perhaps they are limited, either by funds or machinery, to what they have at their disposal now?

It's not that they aren't listening or that they don't want to give us Blend knobs, Speakon outs, or Class D amp sections.

If you look at their products, they usually take the same few form factors, each drilled with nearly the same number of holes, in the exact same places, with similar other hardware. Just the silk screen differs on them.

In the case of the VT Bass, its "Mid" knob displaced a potential "Blend" knob in both the VT Deluxe and the new VT 300 incarnations. Previous products in the same chassis featured those Blend knobs. Perhaps the necessary re-tooling could not be accomplished at this time?

Same with the front-panel mute switch complaint. The Landmark 300 also was sans mute on the chassis. The legacy continues.

Missing your Speakon outs? They may be industry standard on amps and cabs now, but not way back when the Landmark 300 was first introduced.

Just a guess.

All I know is that I will continue to support Tech 21 and its products, and purchase those which fit my needs and budget.
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That is a very good point. My Landmark 600 heads are very high quality and built in the USA. As such, they were pretty expensive new, and Tech 21 likely did not sell too many, even with a great review in BP (back when they actually did real reviews). Probably in part because of the 600 watt rating, though I can assure you they are every bit as loud, if not louder than my M6 was, as well as my 2001RB. They do know how to build a very good power section.
 
#240
iamthebassman said:
Who doesn't send a signal to the board these days? I can't remember the last time I played a show with just my amp, has to be YEARS.
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There are plenty of us who play in bands who use PA for vocals and kick drum only. This is true for two of my bands, including my busiest: they don't even have a soundman, sound is run from the stage. My third band has a horn section, so they rent a big PA and soundman, and everyone gets mic'd/DI'd.
 

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