And that ends my discussion on this amp. You all are on your own. I'll go back to their booth and form my own conclusion, but I'm not posting anything here since I can't make a "reasonable comparison." I have absolutely no way in the next 24 hours to compare this to ANYTHING in a real live setting since there is nothing else there to try it against. Within the 21 years that I've been playing I used a vintage Ampeg V4B rig live for a period of time and I remember what 100w of tube is capable of doing. I have also owned and gigged SS amps ranging from 100w - 800w. If I went in with my expectations set too high, then today I was slightly disappointed. If the amp really doesn't have balls I'll go ahead and let someone else with more time and patience write a detailed review to confirm or deny that since I'm only one guy with limited resources. I would in no way take my quick review as the end all answer, because that's just dumb. I actually hope I'm completely wrong and this was simply user error with an unfamiliar amp. I really wanted this to be an amp I was interested in buying, but so far it isn't. Maybe tomorrow will be a better day.