Yamaha dsr112?
I am itching to get rid of my rig. Thoughts (sorry- I know you've posted them elsewhere before) on this setup?
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Yamaha dsr112?
I am itching to get rid of my rig. Thoughts (sorry- I know you've posted them elsewhere before) on this setup?
I’m digging it! I had to go in and redo all my patches, but well worth it. The only upgrade I could imagine would be an AccuGroove powered wedge, and no way could I afford that! Zoom and FRFR is the way to go. At least for me.
The church that I play at has a Mackie Thump15 v1. Not even in the same league. I got a great deal on a new Yamaha, so that’s the one I went with. Not disappointed at all!
Was there any difference in sound, software wise between the B3, MS-60B, B1on, B1xon?
I understand they had different form factors and, the MS-60B just got an update but, were the processors/software the same?
I ask because, I've used the B1's and the MS-60B before the update. To my ear they sounded the same. Never used the B3, heard someone else using it, sounded the same to me.
Observations?
I understand they had different form factors and, the MS-60B just got an update but, were the processors/software the same?
I ask because, I've used the B1's and the MS-60B before the update. To my ear they sounded the same. Never used the B3, heard someone else using it, sounded the same to me.
Observations?
It’s a little harsh haha..On the zoom I put the gain to no more than 6, and the blend below 10 (wet mix). It also makes an improvement to add an amp sim after it. I use the svt..
It doesn't matter what I paid for the MXR, I paid less for the MS 60-B and it as functional as the B3n as well as a smaller footprint. The issue with the B3n is Zoom killed the B3, which had an XLR. The point I was trying to make though, if I was to chose features, I would prefer to have the XLR instead of looper and rudimentary drum machine.
I bought one of these recently, and while I don't have a lot of access to it, it has been loads of fun in what time I have had with it. I would start from scratch on the patches, just as many others have been recommending. It is the best way to control the experience.
One thing I think Zoom and Boss, etc., are denying us is a programming environment, for general purpose computers (PC, Mac), that will let people build their own emulations. I think people would be surprised at how accessible this process could be made to be. The problem comes in translating a model, once captured or built, to the limited memory and processing power of these relatively puny computers (I mean the B3n and its brethren), and decent tools would make even that compromise-laden journey worthwhile.
One thing I think Zoom and Boss, etc., are denying us is a programming environment, for general purpose computers (PC, Mac), that will let people build their own emulations. I think people would be surprised at how accessible this process could be made to be. The problem comes in translating a model, once captured or built, to the limited memory and processing power of these relatively puny computers (I mean the B3n and its brethren), and decent tools would make even that compromise-laden journey worthwhile.
This seems to be one of those typical zero-sum Talkbass discussions.
One player would have jumped on the bandwagon, if only Zoom had put a DI in it. Someone else wouldn’t have bought theirs, if an XLR out had added even $25 to the street price.
It really doesn’t matter what we think as armchair quarterbacks,
Zoom are the only ones who actually have skin in the game, and they’re selling those little suckers as fast as they can make ‘em. Plus, they already have the MS-60B in their lineup to appeal to MXR and Sansamp owners. And everywhere I go, I see people using the little Zoom event video recorders, regardless of what they have on their pedalboard.
Clearly, Zoom is doing something right...
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Not to derail the DI/No DI debate......but, I used my Zoom board into my DSR 112 rig at church for the first time today, and it crushed! A GIANT step up from the Thump. Love the tones I’m getting from this combo. I had to rebuild my patches, but at this point, that is such an easy thing to do that it takes no time at all. I know the components I want in my chain, and I know how to manipulate them. Easy peasy!
Love my Zoom board!
Love my Zoom board!
darkglass simulation
very metal !!
very metal !!
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It was fine for me, but YMMV. I have FOH, so I don’t have to carry the room, but as a wedge set up, it works great.
As an addendum, I run an AcBsPre as my last slot on my 60b and utilize the HPF to tighten up the low end. Helps me get the most out of the DSR.
I absolutely love the Darkglass simulation and if you put a little effort into it you can get a hell of a great sound out of it! The Darkglass simulation is easily one of the reasons I am so happy with my B3n.
The DG sim makes for a decent distortion, more serviceable than some, but I just do not hear that Darkglass tone
Checking back in here. I finally spent some time with my recently purchased one, and I'm impressed with what you get for your money. I did a D.I. into the p.a. church worship team gig with it recently, and the amp sims and chorus effects I came up with for the situation, left me pretty happy overall, and I haven't really begun to explore it yet. Yes it's got some cheeze whiz factory patches, as most of these sorts of devices do, but it seems to be a pretty powerful unit for those willing to learn it's ways and do their own tweaking. For what it is and what it cost me, yeah, I'm pretty happy with it so far!
I find that at least half of the patches included on any multi-effects pedal to be nothing more than fun sonic experiments
That being said it is very easy to design your own patches with the B3n.
