I actually have a Line 6 Firehawk FX, which is close enough to the HD500X, but my main concern is the lack of bass amps, so I'm looking into the units with more bass amp models
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New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects
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I actually have a Line 6 Firehawk FX, which is close enough to the HD500X, but my main concern is the lack of bass amps, so I'm looking into the units with more bass amp models
Great
I'm really excited to hear that the amp sims are built from the ground up. Knowing me, I'll probably grab it once it's on sale in March 
Except the list of models on the Firehawk is completely different from the HD500 and Helix. Especially with the upcoming update for the Helix (some bass amps, Darkglass b7k ultra, and more), or the HD bass pack.I actually have a Line 6 Firehawk FX, which is close enough to the HD500X, but my main concern is the lack of bass amps, so I'm looking into the units with more bass amp models
That's like saying you don't want a Corvette because you have a Cavalier and it lacks horsepower.
You're absolutely right. I stand corrected. That said, I think the B3n would fit my needs more, and I'm very excited that it's coming out.
Okay I downloaded the manual for the zoom b3n to check out the effects list and the amp and cab models. it's pretty cool that they include a preamp model based on the darkglass b7k and a distortion model based on the darkglass b3k. the only thing that's a deal breaker for me is that there are no amp models based on a gallien-krueger and a hartke. I do like those amp models along with the fender bassman. but it does have the metal zone model and the svt model as always(which is what I use to make my main distortion patch). other than that, maybe I'll check out the zoom b3n just to see it's take on of the darkglass models.
ZOOM has a pretty good history of offering up a good variety of bass amps, so I'd be shocked if a GK800RB wasn't in the works. I agree, the B3n really does need to have GK represented.
I've never personally been all too hot on Hartke bass amps, even though I gigged one for a few years back in the day. I never felt it really had much of a signature to it, or if it did, it was lost on me. Plenty of tone shaping, but just not a ton of character. Which Hartke amps out there are the ones that bassists really like, and why?
I've never personally been all too hot on Hartke bass amps, even though I gigged one for a few years back in the day. I never felt it really had much of a signature to it, or if it did, it was lost on me. Plenty of tone shaping, but just not a ton of character. Which Hartke amps out there are the ones that bassists really like, and why?
As with the G3 and G3X, the B3 appears available only in Japan at this time.
No Zoom bass products with an XLR/DI.
This clearly is the path Zoom has taken in this latest generation of new products.
I am totally accepting of their decision for the reasons I and others have previously mentioned here, but I can understand why others may not be as pleased.
For me that might be the reason not to buy.
Anyway, I dont understand why they left it out.
On their Facebook page, Zoom has been defending the elimination of XLR outputs across all of their new products, both for Guitar and Bass.
They have indirectly stated this was a means to keep the units to their sweet-spot price points and to "simplify" connectivity for the end user. I believe more so the latter.
"It cost too much to put a good one in, so buy your own DI, it's simpler that way."
It is also likely that the amplifier one connects the device to will have its own built-in XLR DI output.
Should one not use an amplifier, the B3n has two 1/4" outputs, one send for FOH and the other for a set of IEMs.
I played this at the booth and was pretty impressed. The updated layout will add a lot to the flexibility of the unit. Quick scene selection and a larger chain are pretty important for guys that want to utilize both amp emulation and effects. I really liked the metal enclosure (even though paddle switches are plastic). Similar to most zoom stuff it will be a solid, practical choice for musicians, like me, that don't want to haul their $1000+ pedalboards to every practice, and it will serve any entry level player just fine. They target a great place in the market, for sure.
So nobody noticed that ZOOM has an advertised price drop for the G5n down to $250? Most online vendors are honoring this now. If you like vintage Fender Bassman or HiWatt Custom bass tones, then this is a pretty sweet deal. FYI.
