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New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects
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Hey folks:
I've been running my B3N for a year now, and love love love it.
This touches on the B3N, but also goes beyond -- my current band is about to take the leap from analog mixing to digital mixing. In prep for this, I've been reading the manual for the unit we plan to get. Daunting! So much to get in trouble with!! LOL
Anyways.. the question that comes to mind -- the board we are going to has compression that can be dialed in per channel, as well as the whole mix. I'm already running compression in my signal chain (pretty much every patch I have). I know it's subjective as far as what "too much" sounds from one to another, but does anyone have experience or advice as far as where/when to run/not run compression to get the best out of it? Or am I comparing Oranges to Tangelos to Tangerines?
I've been running my B3N for a year now, and love love love it.
This touches on the B3N, but also goes beyond -- my current band is about to take the leap from analog mixing to digital mixing. In prep for this, I've been reading the manual for the unit we plan to get. Daunting! So much to get in trouble with!! LOL
Anyways.. the question that comes to mind -- the board we are going to has compression that can be dialed in per channel, as well as the whole mix. I'm already running compression in my signal chain (pretty much every patch I have). I know it's subjective as far as what "too much" sounds from one to another, but does anyone have experience or advice as far as where/when to run/not run compression to get the best out of it? Or am I comparing Oranges to Tangelos to Tangerines?
We're transitioning to a new digital board at my church and I've been wondering the same thing.
My compressor is a big part of my sound, so I would run mine, and let the sound man add what he feels he needs!
Nice thread. The B3n seems to be a nice and reliable unit so far. I am just wondering if it can be used as a High/Low pass filter and also how good the ZNR is in comparison to analog noise gates i.e the ISP stuff.
I'm just looking for those 2 things and if the ones that this unit has are good enough I'll rather go with a B3n instead of 2 separate -and more expensive- pedals even though that I'm more an analog pedal guy ha.
I'm just looking for those 2 things and if the ones that this unit has are good enough I'll rather go with a B3n instead of 2 separate -and more expensive- pedals even though that I'm more an analog pedal guy ha.
I use HPF and LPF and ZNR in every patch. I don’t think you will be disappointed.
Aside from the broken pitch shifter 
the HPF, LPF, and ZNR work great 
. Unfortunately I'm still using my MS-60B as I need the pitch shifter for one song I do.
the HPF, LPF, and ZNR work great . Unfortunately I'm still using my MS-60B as I need the pitch shifter for one song I do.
Do you think that the ZNR ''sucks your tone'' or is it transparent?. Would it work at high gain settings?
You sir got me thinking now. Hopefully you don't work for ZOOM (jk).
I watched some reviews and I found out that it has a Darkglass pre too which I consider a plus. Have you ever used that preset?
In my experience the DarkPre can be in the ballpark with a B7k, but you should fiddle a bit with parameters.
Leaving all flat and engaging the "Hi boost" results in a lot dirtier sound than the same settings on a B7k.
For example, keeping the blend at 50% in the zoom seems like having the blend at 15 o' clock on the real B7k.
At least with my bass.
Good thing is the Dark Pre sounds good
Not sure about the ZNR being totally transaparent on really heavy settings, but for a "normal" use works great.
Leaving all flat and engaging the "Hi boost" results in a lot dirtier sound than the same settings on a B7k.
For example, keeping the blend at 50% in the zoom seems like having the blend at 15 o' clock on the real B7k.
At least with my bass.
Good thing is the Dark Pre sounds good
Not sure about the ZNR being totally transaparent on really heavy settings, but for a "normal" use works great.
I use the znr with my Ric and it’s fantastic, does not color the tone at all, as far as I can tell. It’s first in the chain for all my patches.
I don’t work for Zoom, I’m a coffee roaster!
On the B3n I don’t use any pre sets, I build all my own patches. I’ve been using their pedals for a while now, so I’m very familiar with the Zoom interface, and it’s just second nature for me at this point.
I run an MS60B into my B3n into a Yamaha DSR112 powered monitor and I love my tones!
Oh, and I am not currently using the Darkglass sim, but I have in the past, and, and really like it!
Now I just saw that the MS60B has the HPF and LPF option too, plus I can run 4 different effects at the same time. Is it that true? cuz the smaller the better
Aside from that, has anyone a demo of how the ZNR sounds with a moderate to high gain setting? I can not find anything on the web and I know that you guys already told me that it works good and stuff but it is never going to be the same reading opinions from a forum that listening to the actual thing working.
No exactly - one of the preamp models has a somewhat variable HPF and you can use the Splitter as a LPF as long as you want it 2500Hz or below. I'm hoping there will be another update for the MS-60B soon but you never know with Zoom - I've found them uncommunicative and non-responsive.Now I just saw that the MS60B has the HPF and LPF option too, plus I can run 4 different effects at the same time. Is it that true? cuz the smaller the better
The nice thing about the ZNR is you can put it at the end of your chain and have it still trigger off the input - great for high gain
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No exactly - one of the preamp models has a somewhat variable HPF and you can use the Splitter as a LPF as long as you want it 2500Hz or below. I'm hoping there will be another update for the MS-60B soon but you never know with Zoom - I've found them uncommunicative and non-responsive.The nice thing about the ZNR is you can put it at the end of your chain and have it still trigger off the input - great for high gain
Doesn't the MS60B has the same HPF/LPF options than the b3n? It says that it has the splitter too, the same one I think, am I wrong?
