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New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects
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I'm trying to come up with a battery supply for this unit. There is the Volto but it will probably not make it through a gig. The are some Pedal Juice supplies still out there that will do it but I have found 9vdc and 12dcv packs that could be easily adapted to this purpose. The 9vdc's seem to max out at 6800 mah while the 12vdc's are 9800 mah. If I drop the voltage of the 12v units to 9v via a linear voltage regulator will the loss of doing so negate the additional 3000 mah of power available? Any electronic engineers out there that can do the math?
The other question is what is the actual draw of the B3n? I am going by the 500 mah listed in the specs but that may just be the output provided by the power supply, not the actual draw from the unit.
BTW: I'm talking about building this for under $30
The other question is what is the actual draw of the B3n? I am going by the 500 mah listed in the specs but that may just be the output provided by the power supply, not the actual draw from the unit.
BTW: I'm talking about building this for under $30
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Be careful with those ratings. I bought the warwick one, rated at 6600mah. Yep, at the Lithium ion batteries'(plural possessive) 3.7V. At 9V, more like 2600.
I'm currently(no pun intended) toying with cheap USB battery packs, rated at 10000mah, and a USB-9v boost adapter. I ran both a G10 wireless receiver and a Valeton Dapper at a gig off one of those, and only used 20% of the battery for a four hour gig. The ones I've gotten from eBay are reverse polarity, just FYI.
I'm currently(no pun intended) toying with cheap USB battery packs, rated at 10000mah, and a USB-9v boost adapter. I ran both a G10 wireless receiver and a Valeton Dapper at a gig off one of those, and only used 20% of the battery for a four hour gig. The ones I've gotten from eBay are reverse polarity, just FYI.
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Got my B3n yesterday and am impressed by the sound quality but confused about how labor-intensive using rhythms has become. From what I can tell there's no efficient way to add a rhythm track to a patch and no way to add one globally to all patches. I can't find a way to add rhythm tracks through the guitar lab software, which doesn't seem to list rhythm as one of the effects you can add. You have to add rhythm manually to each patch by pushing a whole lot of buttons.
Am I missing something? Has anyone found an easier way to add the rhythm effect to patches?
Thanks.
Am I missing something? Has anyone found an easier way to add the rhythm effect to patches?
Thanks.
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The rhythm machine is now an effect. Simply drop it into the patch of your choice (at the last effect slot) and then set the few parameters for it. The foot switch controls the start/stop. This rhythm now saves along with that patch only. Repeat this for any other patches that may require rhythm accompaniment.
Which one are you using? A quick search found this
Amazon.com: Tecson 10000mAh Power Bank Portable External Battery Pack, Dual Smart USB Output Ports(Total 5V/3.5A) for Apple, Samsung and Other Mobile Phones and Tablets Devices.(Silver): Cell Phones & Accessories
And by reverse polarity do you mean it is already center negative or it must be turned around?
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I have a few of these and they are terrific for powering my B3 directly...a few hours of rehearsing only uses 5-10%, so I'm confident a charged 10,000mAH battery is good for pretty much all day and then some just as BassikLee says above. I haven't yet found an affordable gizmo to go from USB to 9V center minus. Invalid Link Removed but for now it's still just a pipe dream.
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To players who run amp-less, use FRFR cabinets/monitors, use IEMs, or go direct to mixing board, I highly-recommend the B3n!
The rhythm machine is now an effect. Simply drop it into the patch of your choice (at the last effect slot) and then set the few parameters for it. The foot switch controls the start/stop. This rhythm now saves along with that patch only. Repeat this for any other patches that may require rhythm accompaniment.
I understand. Now have you found a way to add the rhythm track through the guitar lab software or can you only do it manually on the machine itself?
I find that most audio/videos of bass players online exhibit tones that are much more on the treble side of the tracks than i reside. I have not spent a lot of time with the B3n but am finding that the SVT and AC 370 sims with cabs are very lean on the upper mids and highs. I understand that these are classic old school amps but am curious as to what others think and what their settings are when using them Anyone?
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The current version of Guitar Lab is limited as it does not yet allow creation/editing of patches.
I believe this will change in the future as Zoom improves on the software, but right now, "No."
What do you use to get to..... Oh, never mind. The B3 runs off USB directly.
I'll show myself out
I'll show myself out
Tip: To those players using the cabinet sims, put your Modulation, Delay, and Reverbs AFTER the cabinet! This is how it is typically done in the studio and it sounds amazing (provided you are monitoring FRFR.)
I'm lucky to have bought a Sanyo Eneloop Pedal Juice (9v @2A) before they were discontinued. Just need a B3n now 
The SVT is my go-to amp/cab combination, and it is capable of getting plenty of those "cut through the mix" frequencies. To qualify the sound I go for, I have roundwounds (D'Addario XL) and will "dig in" with my playing, whether it be pick or fingers.
Try setting the SVT with the ULTRA setting on BOTH. Then I set the Tone as follows: Bass -1; Middle +12; Mid Freq 1.2k; Treble -1. Play with the Mid freq and amount of boost to taste. This should give you quite a bit of upper mid presence - maybe perhaps too much for what you want, but I've always been a fan of those bass sounds that really cut a mix, like Chris Squire and other prog/metal players. But this also works well if you want to back off your bass instrument treble (and/or mid) controls, too, so that your tone doesn't become a pile of mud when you need to take the edge off the sound.
I open up the Gain so that there is just a little distortion to the sound, which also helps give the tone some edge. With the cab sim, I pump up the SM57 as it is a brighter mic, and leave the RE20 down around 20 or 30 because it is typically used for low end enhancement/proximity rather than cut-through-the-mix.
See what you think, and don't be afraid to get drastic with some of these settings.
I've owned the AxeFxII and played through their amp model version of the SVT (SV-Bass) and IMHO the better quality of the new Zoom amp algorithms makes the B3n a much more satisfying experience in replicating SVT sounds I'm familiar with, but without jumping through hoops to get there. I find the B3n really easy to dial in. I'm a huge fan of the AxeFxII and it's a stellar piece of gear with much more depth and detail across the board vs. Zoom products....but the B3n is impressive and has significantly closed the gap for bass modeling now. JMHO. YMMV.
