Kurt Warner never had massive stats but you know why he got in?? It was the best in the game for about 6 or 7 years straight.... longevity should never make a career it cannot to it but it doesn't replace brightness and the fact that Eli was around for so long of course you're going to become a eightr ninth on the all-time list doesn't mean you're great
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NFL 2019 Week #15
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Kurt Warner never had massive stats but you know why he got in?? It was the best in the game for about 6 or 7 years straight.... longevity should never make a career it cannot to it but it doesn't replace brightness and the fact that Eli was around for so long of course you're going to become a eightr ninth on the all-time list doesn't mean you're great
The problem is, If Broadway Joe is in Eli HAS to go in. . . Namath is the low water mark.
Unfortunately.
Unfortunately.
Gaolee
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They were down six of eleven starters by the end of that game. It showed, too. Clowney will probably be back, since he had the flu from the sounds of it. Wagner sounds like he will be back. I don't know about Griffin. Ansah sounds like he could be back. Kendricks could be back again next week, although Barton did just fine in his place on Sunday. Sounds like Diggs could be out a while. Ben Burr-Kurvin got in for a couple plays on defense. As a homer, I always root for the UW guys on the Seahawks roster, but when he's in for snaps on defense, you know the game is a rout or the Seahawks are short handed. It wasn't a rout, because this year's Seahawks don't rout anybody.
Carolina wasn't exactly a scary team, which means the Seahawks got away with being short-handed. It sounds like they won't be near as short-handed for the next game. Who knows how they will hold up against the Niners and in the playoffs. I would sure like to see them win out and get the Number One seed. They have lost two games at home and one on the road. I figure you can erase any significance of that in the playoffs. Their stadium will be bedlam for playoffs. It always is.
The Titans played good for most of one half. It was almost enough.
Offensive rookie of the year should absolutely involve AJ Brown.
He has been an integral part of the Titans success with both Mariota and Tannehill. Henry can't say the same as during the first half of the season he was "ok".
Brown now has a team-high 893 receiving yards and seven touchdowns on the season, on a team-high 47 catches.
Offensive rookie of the year should absolutely involve AJ Brown.
He has been an integral part of the Titans success with both Mariota and Tannehill. Henry can't say the same as during the first half of the season he was "ok".
Brown now has a team-high 893 receiving yards and seven touchdowns on the season, on a team-high 47 catches.
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Gaolee
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The Browns didn't. It wasn't.
The Rams looked like an absolutely joke yesterday. Ugh. Packers had enough to beat the Bears, but it was the Bears. They didn't impress me at all along the way, especially for an 11-3 team. Also, WTH 9ers?
The Eagles had a good 4th quarter. This has been a strange season for the NFC East.
Dolphins 20 - Giants 36
Eagles 31 - Dolphins 37 (12/1)
Cowboys 22 -Jets 24 (10/13)
Dolphins 20 - Giants 36
Eagles 31 - Dolphins 37 (12/1)
Cowboys 22 -Jets 24 (10/13)
I love the Cowboys roller coaster ride this year. It tickles a place deep inside.
The fans, we have several around here, are walking around with involuntary Tourette syndrome.
Lovely.
The fans, we have several around here, are walking around with involuntary Tourette syndrome.
Lovely.
Gaolee
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The Seahawks looked absolutely awful last week against the Rams. Every team except the 1972 Dolphins has an off week or two.
Week 15 of the regular season for the Dolphins would have spelled disaster for them.
If there was a week 15 then. . .
I don't know what the Cowboys issue is about getting over the hump but I have to believe it's coaching. They have a great offensive line, talent at the skill positions and what seems like a very reasonable defense.
Compared to a lot of guys in the league Prescott is a big upgrade and I do believe he deserves his money I think you should pay that guy in the off season.
Stabler and ( heresy I know! ) Aikman are very similar in overall stats to Namath - save a few super bowls of course in Aikmans case ... but Aikman was a turn over machine. In fact he was the weak link on that stellar team. He should thank his lucky stars he was on that team because no other QB in the hall relied so much on others than him.
SHOTS FIRED!
Ha, never! That team was a machine.
Didn't all QBs have their huckleberry? Aikman had Irvin Manning had Wayne and Harrison..Rogers had a Driver and Jennings...and then there was plaxico.Stabler and ( heresy I know! ) Aikman are very similar in overall stats to Namath - save a few super bowls of course in Aikmans case ... but Aikman was a turn over machine. In fact he was the weak link on that stellar team. He should thank his lucky stars he was on that team because no other QB in the hall relied so much on others than him.
SHOTS FIRED!
Didn't impress me either. Still no team identity.
I think Starr is in a different category, and a lot more like Tom Brady than any other QB I can think of. Joe Montana probably belongs in the same group.
All of them were the right man to captain the ship on teams built to win. The Packers and 49ers had more stability in personnel, but the Patriots have done a pretty incredible job of turning over personnel without losing championship talent. (I know this year is weaker, but they still are well positioned for the playoffs.)
Bart Starr was the epitome of class and calm. He always kept his head, and he was a master of Lombardi's game plans. Montana did the same for Bill Walsh. And let's face it, Belichick may be a cranky pain in the butt, but he has beeen brilliant in coaching that team through Brady's career, and Brady has been the perfect QB to run that offense.
IMO Eli has been a competent QB that has been a step above your average game manager, and I do think he has benefited from the team built around him.
Aikman had Irving and the NFLs all time Rushing leader RB and that O line was the class of the NFL then. The Defense was top tier as well. Meanwhile he barely threw more touchdowns than he did ints.
Manning got there by volume. His teams were nearly all crap. Constantly playing from behind inflated his stats. Brees has gaudier numbers with decent coaching and good teams in a tough division. Manning played in the AFC South... during the bad old years. Rogers hasn't really stepped up has he? He has all the talent in the world but it seems to me like he doesn't really have that final "thing" that compels him to be that little bit better. He is seemingly, more and more to me, like he's a rest on his laurels kinda guy. Good enough. Rogers may look better on paper but imo Farve was worlds better because he willed himself to be. He willed games to be wins. It's funny, it's easy to scoff Eli but not so long ago it was tough to find a more clutch QB when the game was on the line. That guy pulled out a lot of games, when he cared to. Rogers? Well through 2018 he was 0-37 when entering the fourth quarter trailing by more than a point against teams with a winning record. That is the exact opposite of clutch.
buldog5151bass
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Take a look at Starr's stats. He threw for a high completion percentage, but that was mostly because he was seldom throwing from third and long. For the most part, he handed off to Paul Hornung and Jim Taylor - take away the sweep and halfback option (where Hornung was doing the throwing) and Lombardi's offense was nothing exciting. They had a great defense, and controlled the clock and field position. If anything, Eli was a more dynamic quarterback (although that was more of the time) who threw downfield more. Both were game managers who took what the coach gave to them. Like the Packers, the Giants have tended to play conservatively.
I compare Brady more to Unitas - great throwers, but not flashy.
