NFL 2021-22

[dwm74]

Neither a Niners or Packers fan nor hater, but that finish last night was awesome. Poor Garappolo, thinking he'd engineered a helluva comeback and victory was only 37 seconds away. Actually felt good for the guy. But then Aaron Rodgers showed why he was still the best there is, only needing 35 of those seconds to march his team down the field into FG range.

 

[gln1955]

I'm still bitter about something. But I forgot what it was.

Probably the Immaculate Reception. Lot's of people can't let it go.

 

[Gaolee]

Probably the Immaculate Reception. Lot's of people can't let it go.

If it was against the Browns, that might be it. But I don't think it was. Oh, I know! It was the flags in the 2008 Super Bowl. I can't find a picture of the whiny billboard Seattle fans put up in Pittsburgh about that. Oh, well. No wonder I couldn't remember what it was.

 

[MJ5150]

Probably the Immaculate Reception. Lot's of people can't let it go.

It's the Super Bowl where Jerramy Stevens dropped a touchdown pass, Josh Brown missed two field goals, the Seahawks couldn't tackle Willie Parker or cover Hines Ward all while Ben played a terrible game (22.6 ranking), but somehow it was the officials fault they lost.

-Mike

 

[SgtHulka]

Josh Gordon is signing with Kansas City. That guy is the cat of the NFL, he has nine lives. Anyway, I guess he'll be suspended again by about week eight or so.

 

[Gaolee]

It's the Super Bowl where Jerramy Stevens dropped a touchdown pass, Josh Brown missed two field goals, the Seahawks couldn't tackle Willie Parker or cover Hines Ward all while Ben played a terrible game (22.6 ranking), but somehow it was the officials fault they lost.

-Mike

Well, yeah! Of course! And as I recall, the Steelers' defense wasn't too shabby. But, the refs, y'know.

 

[Funky Ghost]

So much good to see on the weekend... but watching the 49ers celebrate on the sideline moments before "Tasty Buds" Rodgers put a dagger in their hearts... That was sweet sweet nectar.

 

[SgtHulka]

I hope this isn't a dumb question.

Can someone explain to me why Tucker's FG (or any) is considered 66 yards and not 60? 10 for the endzone, ball spotted at the 50 ='s 60 yards. I don't understand why they count the yardage behind the line of scrimmage. Imagine if they treated QB's the same way, adding 6 yards to a pass because when it left the QB's hand he was 6 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Or the same for a run. Seems strange to me.

 

[seilerbird]

Probably the Immaculate Reception. Lot's of people can't let it go.

That reminds me, Jack Tatum has been dead for over 11 years. He was the same age as me and a good friend of mine. I love the fact that I got to discuss the Immaculate Reception with one of the principals. He was a very deep guy and very quiet. I still miss him.

 

[Bassball Fever]

I hope this isn't a dumb question.

Can someone explain to me why Tucker's FG (or any) is considered 66 yards and not 60? 10 for the endzone, ball spotted at the 50 ='s 60 yards. I don't understand why they count the yardage behind the line of scrimmage. Imagine if they treated QB's the same way, adding 6 yards to a pass because when it left the QB's hand he was 6 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Or the same for a run. Seems strange to me.

I think the reason they add the 10 yards is because the goal posts used to be at the goal line. When they moved them back, they added the 10 yards.

 

[SgtHulka]

I think the reason they add the 10 yards is because the goal posts used to be at the goal line. When they moved them back, they added the 10 yards.

not sure if you read exactly what I wrote but it's not the extra 10 yards I was talking about it's the extra yards behind the line of scrimmage.

 

[MJ5150]

Perhaps because we know it is six yards every time?
If we applied that to a QB pass or RB run, that number would be left up to a human after each play determining at what yardline the ball left the QB's hand or the RB took possession of the ball?
It gets me at times with passes in regard to yards after the catch. I see they are trying to measure that now, but it still bugs me that if a QB dumps the ball to a receiver in the flat and then he breaks it for a 75 yard run, the QB is credited with a 75 yard pass when maybe he really only threw the ball 5-6 yards laterally.
No Ben, you didn't throw a 75 yard pass. Your pass went for -1 yard while the receiver turned that into 76 yards of running.

-Mike

 

[mrpackerguy]

I hope this isn't a dumb question.

Can someone explain to me why Tucker's FG (or any) is considered 66 yards and not 60? 10 for the endzone, ball spotted at the 50 ='s 60 yards. I don't understand why they count the yardage behind the line of scrimmage. Imagine if they treated QB's the same way, adding 6 yards to a pass because when it left the QB's hand he was 6 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Or the same for a run. Seems strange to me.

because they count from where the ball is struck from, not the line of scrimmage. The ball connected with Tucker's foot at his own 44yd line. So 56yds + the 10yds of end zone = 66yds

 

[mrpackerguy]

Ironically punters are not afforded the same yardage credit on punts which are not measured from where the foot connects with the ball but instead, punt yardage is measured from the line of scrimmage where the ball is snapped from. Weird but true.

 

[dwm74]

^ That is an interesting point regarding the difference in yardage stats between punters vs kickers.

Kind of like when a running back is hemmed in behind the line, runs 15 yards to the right, reverses back 20 yards to the left, and finally breaks through for a 1 yd gain from the line of scrimmage. He's completely out of breath from running 35+ yds but only gets credit for the lousy one yard.

 

[mrpackerguy]

^ It has to do the a punt being a "free kick" (not placed on the ground) vs an extra point or field goal "placed kick" with the ball placed on the ground in a spot prior to the kick

 

[RichterScale]

It really gets on my nerves that the NFL doesn't call me before making some of these rules.

 

[TinIndian]

^ It has to do the a punt being a "free kick" (not placed on the ground) vs an extra point or field goal "placed kick" with the ball placed on the ground in a spot prior to the kick

I think that since a Field goal is a predetermined placement of the ball and a punt can be from varying distances that would account for the difference. They aren't going to want to sit up in the booth with the NFL stat guys trying to figure out how far back from the line the punter was when actually kicked the ball each time on a punt. Easier to call it from the LOS.

 

[friend33]

Kind of like when a running back is hemmed in behind the line, runs 15 yards to the right, reverses back 20 yards to the left, and finally breaks through for a 1 yd gain from the line of scrimmage. He's completely out of breath from running 35+ yds but only gets credit for the lousy one yard.

Or a QB?



Right hash to left sideline back to left hash…

 

[TOOL460002]

Or a QB?



Right hash to left sideline back to left hash…

Haha ya I was thinking a QB would for sure be the all-time leading rusher if that's how things were measured. He came to mind. Big Ben. Insert scramble master here etc.