jazzbo said:Oh well, now the Vikes and the Cowboys are both 1-1!
So are the Bengals! LOL...

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jazzbo said:Oh well, now the Vikes and the Cowboys are both 1-1!

rcz said:i still think the best football game i've ever watched was marshall at toledo in the MAC championship game a couple years back..../QUOTE]
Yeah, robb, a lot of people don't know how fargin' great players from these "no name" schools are. Marshall is almost always fantastic and Toledo is no slouch either.........look at a program guide at an NFL game and you will see those players who list those schools as alma maters.
The other one I've been pushing for years is fargin' Fresno State..........these guys are like a track team in football uniforms. They smoke..........when it comes to speed.
And I think the NFL is eventually getting back to physically fit players on defense who burn because these obese-freak offensive linemen can't handle them....(i.e., my hometown team's All-Pro Orlando Pace, got raped by the Falcons' linemen this last weekend).
Face facts-PhatBasstard said:Well my Vikes give away another game (with help from the officials).:scowl:
4th and goal on the 1. The NFL's #1 offense goes for a FIELD GOAL?!?![]()
Cullpepper gets a requisite fumble on the 1 yard line.![]()
A Cullpepper touchdown is negated due to HOLDING!![]()
As if that weren't enough, the officials totally blow it on that Owens "touchdown".
Not only did he never have possesion (check the replays folks), but even if he had caught that ball, the ball was a good half a yard short of the goal line when his knee hit.![]()
Considering how badly the Vikes defense played, the Eagles were damn lucky (including the Owens fiasco) to get the points they got.
rcz said:you know, my 2-0 detroit lions are on top of the NFC north since minnesota lost, putting the vikings in a second-place tie with green bay and chicago at 1-1.
just in case anyone else missed that.![]()
go lions!
robb.
True, but still, have some balls. It's the 1 friggin' yard line! How many of those chances are you going to have?jazzbo said:#1 offense after one week. C'mon, Dallas had the #1 passing offense after one week, they may still have it after two, but that doens't mean much.
True. (sighjazzbo said:He fumbles a lot!
Extremely debatable.jazzbo said:He wouldn't have scored if there was not holding.
No. I've been on the sidelines at football games (including a couple of pro games, including a Vikes/Saints game) and that play would have been almost impossible to see from Tice's position. The ones who blew it are the replay booth officials and Tice's own people upstairs. They're ultimately supposed to be the ones who can see and catch that stuff.jazzbo said:No. Mike Tice blew it. After the first replay I saw it wasn't a touchdown. I'm shouting at the TV, and my girlfriend's starting to worry about me. Mike should've thrown the red flag in. He didn't catch it, his bad.
rcz said:you know, my 2-0 detroit lions are on top of the NFC north since minnesota lost, putting the vikings in a second-place tie with green bay and chicago at 1-1.
just in case anyone else missed that.![]()
go lions!
robb.
Kelly Lee said:I'm not a Lions fan but man, you gotta cheer for them a little...
Go Lions!
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McHack said:Pffft, if ANYONE deserves a little love, its the Bengals... From Super Bowl contender to basement dweller in just a couple of years...

Gard said:...(John Gruden: Most over-rated coach in the NFL. Won the Super Bowl with Tony Dungy's team.)
rickbass said:There's a lot of truth in Gard's statement, IMO, that you see in US corporations these days - we keep changing the "big dogs" and don't give them a chance to re-build after other teams have siphoned off some of their most talented players.
It all comes back to the hackneyed, but "oh so true", euphemism I learned early on as a ball player - "Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games."
Look at my hometown Rams and their fallen "genius", coach Martz ---- garbage!!!!
rickbass said:It all comes back to the hackneyed, but "oh so true", euphemism I learned early on as a ball player - "Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games."
