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NFL Week #2

Oh, what a great week of football. Congrats Tard, on the Saints .... oh, wait. Yes, those Saints of yours, which I, rightfully by the way, said reminded me too much of the Saints last year. You know, 8-8ish, will win games and lose games with no great consistency. Hmm, they really appear to be the threat now, huh? But, you're right, 14 games to go. I noticed you didn't say, "...to the regular season." Do you just mean that the Saints have 14 more games this season total, including playoffs. Yeah, sounds about right! ;)

Here's what I think we can safely say right now, the best teams in the AFC are Denver and Buffalo. Indianapolis, as hurt as they are, should be up there if they get healthy. NE still doesn't impress me, although there defense played well. Brett Favre, I'm afraid, is still Brett Favre.

The best teams in the NFC are clearly Dallas, NY, GB, and Philly. I think, truly, anybody who talks about a lack of talent in the NFC is just regurgitating what somebody said 3 years ago. Has the balance of power shifted? Particularly if there are long-reaching effects to Brady's injury, (just ask McNabb, it takes more than 12 months to come back from an ACL, you're not really yourself for 24 months, and then will the Pats talent and age prevent them from being as dominant, and will Moss be that patient). Also, if Indy can't stay healthy as some of their talent ages, and Dungy is packing his bags ... It certainly seems like the talent is in the NFC now.

Is it just me, or the Packers better than last year? No, no, I'm better than last year too.

Dallas and Philly. Well, Tard, what say you know? :D Tard will mention that Romo threw an interception and had a fumble in the end zone. Then he will say that that proves that Romo is not a good QB and that Dallas sucks. He will neglect to mention that Romo overcame that to throw for well over 300 yards, and that he had 3 TDs and that he completed passes to 7 different receivers, and that he had a sweet 60 yard bomb to TO and a beautiful rainbow TD pass to Barber.

Some will point to the porous defense of Dallas last night, but will neglect to mention that Dallas held Philly to 7 second half points, and held Philly on the last drive, the most important drive of the game. They will also neglect to mention that Philly actually allowed more points than Dallas did, and neglect to mention that Philly scored one touchdown on a fumble recovery, (that they did not force, just as Dallas did not force Philly's fumble), and that Philly found themselves on the 1 yard line after a bogus pass interference call. So, Philly certainly moved the ball well, that cannot be denied, but Dallas wasn't atrocious. I mean, these were two great teams duking it out. Sometimes defense goes out the window when teams have that much talent. NE and Indy had some great shoot-outs in their playoff games. More than anything, I loved Dallas holding Philly to only 7 second half points. They controlled the game when they had to.

Next week's Dallas at Green Bay game will be fantastic. No matter what, it looks like Green Bay, Philly, the Giants, and Dallas will be the four teams slugging it out in the NFC, and I do like the chances of any of those teams to win the Super Bowl. I think it's pretty remarkable when one can honestly make the case that 3 of the top 5 teams in the league are in the same division. Seriously, if you're ranking the top teams right now, it's those 4, plus Pittsburgh, Denver, and Buffalo. What order do you put those 7 teams in? Buffalo has looked good, against one very good team and one lousy team. Denver looked great against a lousy team and very good against a very good team, so they're kind of the same as Buffalo, you can put them up there, but not necessarily one and two. Pittsburgh play a good team, (Cleveland), fairly close, but in bad weather, and destroyed Houston, and I have no idea if Houston is horrible or okay. The Giants destroyed perhaps the worst team in the league, then looked pretty good against a so-so team in Washington. Philly destroyed that same worst team, and played great against a great team, but lost. Here's what I would say:

1. Dallas
2. NY Giants
3. Denver
4. Pittsburgh
5. Philly
6. Buffalo
7. Green Bay

Green Bay would be higher if they didn't let Detroit get so close at the end, and I'm not totally sure how good Minnesota really is, but regardless, GB still looks very good and putting them at 7 was hard, they could easily be 2 or 3. Hell, if they win next week, which they won't, I think they have to be #1. I think Denver would beat Pittsburgh right now, and Buffalo, and probably Philly.

(Then, who knows about Carolina, they might be pretty good. New Orleans has the talent, but they've got to do more to impress me. Indy has to get healthy. If NE plays well against some good teams, then we'll see. Beating KC by 7 and beating the Jets doesn't inspire me. Tampa isn't for real. Minnesota has a long way to go. Jacksonville is hobbled. Tennessee might be really good, but if Young comes back healthy they're still not inspiring.)

Go Cowboys!
 
Here's what I think we can safely say right now, the best teams in the AFC are Denver and Buffalo. Indianapolis, as hurt as they are, should be up there if they get healthy.
Even though San Diego (realistically) easily beat Denver, and Indianapolis looks horrible so far (despite being 2-0), you rank them above Pittsburgh? For shame, my man! :smug:
 
Even though San Diego (realistically) easily beat Denver, and Indianapolis looks horrible so far (despite being 2-0), you rank them above Pittsburgh? For shame, my man! :smug:

Well, you can say what you want about officiating, but San Diego didn't easily beat anybody. If you want to give SD a win, (which I strongly disagree with, but let's assume your point), you're really calling it an easy win? Wow, we watched two different games.

Actually, I didn't put Indy above Pittsburgh at all. I'm actually confused as to what post you read.
 
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First, I'm amazed that Peter King can write a column without referencing Brett Favre. King is so in love with the man, it's downright disturbing.

I think it really says something about a team when a sports writer, (and granted, I don't think King is a good NFL analyst for the most part), praises and praises a team, for almost winning a game. I think it says the Cowboys must be really great if another team loses to them and provides proof that they could make it to the Super Bowl.

King "doesn't care" about Westbrook's stats, because he's tough and versatile, but sights Marion Barber's stats, which he apparently does care about, as proof of how good the other team is.

This kind of reporting is pedestrian. Of course Philadelphia played great and looks to be a good team, but there's an awful lot of props going to them for simply being competitive and not a lot going to Dallas for actually winning the game. King says the Eagles lost because they couldn't get pressure on Romo, "Period." He also says that all that came between them and a win was a "botched ... handoff." While he wants to wish that away, he doesn't similarily wish away the Romo fumble. Amateurish reporting.

I think it's time for King to go back to celebrating all things Favre.
 
Here's what I think we can safely say right now, the best teams in the AFC are Denver and Buffalo. Indianapolis, as hurt as they are, should be up there if they get healthy.
Actually, I didn't put Indy above Pittsburgh at all. I'm actually confused as to what post you read.
That's where I saw the Indy above Pittsburgh. Sorry if I misinterpreted.

Well, you can say what you want about officiating, but San Diego didn't easily beat anybody. If you want to give SD a win, (which I strongly disagree with, but let's assume your point), you're really calling it an easy win? Wow, we watched two different games.
Okay, maybe "easily" was a stretch, but would you agree that San Diego most certainly should have won that game? SD got hosed on two separate calls. You can't tell me that doesn't completely crush momentum.

Denver looked unstoppable in the first half. They looked almost abysmal in the second. Despite that, they stole a win.

While I'm a Pittsburgh fan to the core, I like Denver. Always have. And, since I live here now, I gots no choice but to like them ;)... San Diego, on the other hand, I've never liked. Despite that, I see SD as getting screwed beyond belief in that game.

With all that being said, I do give Hochuli some credit for actually admitting he blew it. Normally the officials are too flippin' stubborn!
 
Yeah, here's the quote you didn't notice: "Seriously, if you're ranking the top teams right now, it's those 4, plus Pittsburgh, Denver, and Buffalo."

I interpret games differently than you do. You say that Denver looked unstoppable in the first half and abysmal in the second half. The execution on the TD and 2 point conversion, and I acknowledge that you contend that they shouldn't have been allowed the ball to do it, but the execution was amazing, not abysmal. You say that San Diego was deflated because of the bad call, but I say, so you lie down and just admit defeat.

Denver has the ball on about the one or two yard line when the fumble happened. I heard an announcer say, "Well, it looks like we're definitely heading to overtime." Then, Cutler fumbles. But, we all just knew that Denver could punch it in from the one or two yard line right. So, then, did you just know that if SD gets the ball back with 70 seconds to go and with Denver having two timeouts, that SD wouldn't have fumbled or had to punt the ball back to Denver with enough time for Denver to score. Now, are those things likely, no? Was Dallas' last second comeback against Buffalo last year likely? No. I will never say that the refs handed one team a win. You open a HUGE can of worms with that argument. NE wouldn't have won it's first SB.

San Diego still allowed 31 points to Denver w/o the last TD. San Diego still allowed the last second TD to Carolina last week. Denver never looked abysmal to me. I would argue instead that they eased off the accelerator, like every team with a big lead does. Football is about momentum, and every team, every team, has enough talent to win any game. It's why you saw Detroit take a lead late on Sunday against GB. It's why you don't see College-type point spreads. It's why you don't see College-type scores of 62-3 or 58-10 all the time.

So, no, I do not agree that San Diego should have most certainly won that game. If the call had been made correctly it is very likely that they would have, but not certain. I see it differently.
 
You're focusing on one botched call, not both of them. It was like they were playing both the Broncos and the refs.

Can o' works or not, in this particular case, I stand by my statement. :)
Hmm, I witnessed some no-calls against SD. There were at least two facemask calls that should have been called against them. Anyways, that is football. Some calls are made, some not, and some are just really screwed up.

Also, my Colts are not 2-0. They are 1-1. They lost to Chicago in Week 1. :(
 
Hey, Dallas looks good and I'm happy about it. Football is fun and I'm not gonna stress over what could happen. I have, however, noticed that Gard has been oddly quiet this week. I don't think he was as quiet last week.

Yeah, I'm still wipin' the egg of a game the Saints laid on the field in MD Sunday off my face.

:spit:

...we'll see what the Saints are made of this weekend in Denver, if they bounce back and play a good game against an excellent opponent, I'll start feeling better, if not...

:hmm:

...it pains me to admit this, but the Cowpatties and the Iggles look like the class of the NFC, SO FAR, but it is just week 3 now, there are a few games left to play yet...
 
Hmm, I witnessed some no-calls against SD. There were at least two facemask calls that should have been called against them. Anyways, that is football. Some calls are made, some not, and some are just really screwed up.
Couldn't agree more, but two face mask calls equals 30 yards and two first downs. Those two *bad* calls equaled turnovers and more...

I think, psychologically, it's a double edge sword. SD (or any team for that matter) is going to lose a LOT of air in their sails after those calls. At the same time, Denver is fired up. In my opinion, it's that firing up that caused Shanahan to go for the two point to win. They were all sorts of pumped up. Regarding Cutler's "incomplete", everyone on the Denver sideline knows it was a fumble. Despite that, they keep the ball. They had to be beyond fired up at that point.

IMO, of course. :)