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NFL Week 4

#103
Poppinga has a huge upside. He needs experience and he won't get that on the bench.

Carroll had experience, but he hit a wall. Where he's at is as good as he's going to get. Good riddance.

Obviously the Fluffers stink this year. But there are some things I see as positives.

The LB corps should be a great corps for quite a few years. The DL is getting better.

Mostly, I see a pattern from McCarthy emerging that just shows him to be a no-nonsense, shove it down their throat kind of coach. While they didn't score, I think just the fact that he made the decision to run all four times at the goal line personifies his style and the kind of team he wants. While they don't have the players yet, MM seems to be saying...We are going to be a tough, no-nonsense team and if you can't cut it, we'll find someone who can.

He doesn't make excuses and his post game interviews are pretty much tell it like it is. He knows they've got work to do and they don't have the players yet, but he doesn't use it as an excuse.

Thompson seems to feel the same way. Which might be why he hired McCarthy. They are trying to build a strong team and for now are stuck with too many marginal players. But it shows some guts that he just told Carroll to hit the road. I think it sends a message to the team...

Unlike Sherman (the coach and GM), this staff will boot you out of here if you ain't cutting it. Good for them...good for the team in the long run.

Glaring problems, mainly in the secondary. If they had a decent secondary the Pack would be a much tougher team to beat. As it is, there is no need to run on GB. Teams only have to keep throwing it up there and they'll eventually score.

This is a year that I simply look for signs of growth. We know were not going to win much, but how well they do is determined by young players gaining experience and confidence as the coaching staff and GM sift through the wreckage of Sherman's tenure.
 
#106
Morrolan said:
Unless you wear #4 ...
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I love it when everyone jumps on the media bandwagon. If any of the media or any of the puppets who make comments like this had actually watched ANY Packer games this year, they'd see Favre is NOT the problem. He had one bad interception during the Eagles game. The late throw down the middle. The first one hit Morency in the chest, and bounced up into the air. News for ya. Carson Palmer, Tom Brady, etc., definitely makes some bad passes too. If Favre throws one bad ball per game, I'll take it.

Favre is 6th in the NFL in passing yards now, and tied for 5th in TDs. That would make him what? Better than 24 other starting QB's in both categories?
 
#108
Morrolan said:
He's also tied for 5th in interceptions thrown. Similar numbers were enough to get another former MVP benched in Arizona (a team that is arguably no better than Green Bay).
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Are you trying to compare Warner to Favre? Hmmm...one is playing with his third team after a few years of some admittedly awesome success...while the other just started his 15th consecutive season (starting every single game), is at (or near) the top in every QB record in NFL history, a sure first ballot Hall of Famer, and is the face of an entire franchise. Not to mention he isn't the problem as is the case with your "other" MVP.

Yeah, that sure is a convincing argument you have there.
 
#110
Morrolan said:
He's also tied for 5th in interceptions thrown. Similar numbers were enough to get another former MVP benched in Arizona (a team that is arguably no better than Green Bay).
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LOL! You don't think Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, and Edgerrin James are better than Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, and Vernand Morency. I'd say Warner has a bit better skill position supporting cast. Favre also has two rookie guards, and a second year center.
 
#114
jive1 said:
That made me feel so dirty...........
I need to go take a shower for a couple of hours.
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Don't forget to dry off good, with your Chicago Bears towel. :D

I bet you have a Rex Grossman bobblehead soap dispenser too...you know...when you press on his head, his arm throws soap all over and you are lucky enough to have it hit you.
 
#117
Well, you're right that Warner's body of work doesn't compare to Favre's. (Although, now that I think about it, they both have the same number of Super Bowl appearances [2] and rings [1].)

Look at the stats through 4 games this year, though, and they're pretty much the same guy.

Look, I actually like Favre. As a lifelong Bears fan, it pains me to admit that, but I do. Here's the thing, though: the era is over in Green Bay. Everyone except Pack fans can see this. They're going to have to rebuild to have any hope of recapturing their former glory. The team is obviously going nowhere this season, so why wait?
 
#118
Morrolan said:
Well, you're right that Warner's body of work doesn't compare to Favre's. (Although, now that I think about it, they both have the same number of Super Bowl appearances [2] and rings [1].)

Look at the stats through 4 games this year, though, and they're pretty much the same guy.

Look, I actually like Favre. As a lifelong Bears fan, it pains me to admit that, but I do. Here's the thing, though: the era is over in Green Bay. Everyone except Pack fans can see this. They're going to have to rebuild to have any hope of recapturing their former glory. The team is obviously going nowhere this season, so why wait?
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Because winning breeds winning. The Packers have the best chance to win with Favre and his young teammates will learn more (and faster) playing with Favre than they would with Rodgers.

Outsiders and other (so-called) experts haven't a clue what's going on up here. Rodgers is learning more by being a backup to Favre right now anyway. And though I"m a Packer's fan, I realize they are rebuilding. But everyone knows that when you rebuild, you keep the best players while you go through the process. You don't clean house and start from scratch in every area. A young team needs experienced, successful leaders around them while they grow. Look at what Forrest Gregg's rebuilding did to the Packers, for just one example.

As far as similar stats, I don't see Favre fumbling games away. Ask anybody who'd they rather have on their team...Warner or Favre? I wonder how good Arizona would be with Favre throwing to those recievers?
 
#119
Morrolan said:
Well, you're right that Warner's body of work doesn't compare to Favre's. (Although, now that I think about it, they both have the same number of Super Bowl appearances [2] and rings [1].)

Look at the stats through 4 games this year, though, and they're pretty much the same guy.

Look, I actually like Favre. As a lifelong Bears fan, it pains me to admit that, but I do. Here's the thing, though: the era is over in Green Bay. Everyone except Pack fans can see this. They're going to have to rebuild to have any hope of recapturing their former glory. The team is obviously going nowhere this season, so why wait?
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The main difference being, Favre still has an arm. Warner never was strong armed, and is even worse now. Favre can still make the throws. Warner can't. Besides, as a Bears fan, can't you relate to what it takes to find a good QB? You guys haven't had one in decades despite a lot of early first round picks over the last 15 years. (The jury is still out on Rex Glassman. If history holds out, he'll be getting hurt any game now)
 
#120
Another difference between Favre and Warner is that when Warner gets a thumb injury he fumbles the ball more, loses accuracy, and drops in velocity. And that's after it's been "healed"

Favre had one of his best seasons playing with a broken thumb.


Time to hit the shower again.
 

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