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NFL Week #5

Can't argue that. He, and the the offense in general, will really need to get it together if they want to break .500 this year. One reason they lost to Denver is they just totally succumbed offensively after the 1st quarter.

well at least they're not alone in that camp anymore.. i guess it's a plus that the pats held it together offensively for 2 quarters? :bawl:
 
Good game last night. I was kind of pulling for the Jets, but don't feel too bad that the 'phins came back and won it because the interference penalty on the DB covering Edwards on the last drive was a bad call. All in all, it was a great game.
Yeah, that call may have been close, but that late in the 4th in such a close game, let them play, sheesh! That was a 49-yard penalty that put them at the goal line! :eek: That shouldn't be allowed unless it's blatant. The zebras did their best to hand NY the game with that call. It's solely because of that call that I'm glad Miami won. Prior to the call, I couldn't have cared less who racked up the W. ;)
 
not sure if its been mentioned, but speaking of jerseys, holy crap! denver? the graphic designer mustve accidentally taken a dump on the design and then proceed to spill mustard all over the place. some of the throwbacks are pretty cool though.

I dunno, I'm kinda sick of all the fancy pants new school jersies like the Jags, Dolphins, Panthers, Titans, etc wear.

I love the old school feel of some of the throwbacks:

Denver, NYJ (Titans), Dallas Cowboys AND Texans, Love the middle school Oilers Jersies, the powder blue helmets take it a bit too far back. Love the Pats throwbacks, but hate the logo. Like the Bucs throwbacks, hate the logo - though I love their 'new' colors and logo.

Grantedm they are a bit dated and simplistic, but I love the idea of having throwbacks or special alt uniforms for certain things, like historic rivalries, or division rivalries, etc. For example, i love Houston's Battle Red whent hey play the Jags. I'd totally dig it if both Houson and Jax both went to alts specifically for those games.

I also like it when there are multiple versions of the same uniform, just swapping around the main colors of the team, like Seattle, Tennessee, Miami, and a couple others do.

But, I hate all black, like the Jags of the past several years. Their black pants with the Jag head made them look like bellerinas - they shoulda kept the teal stripe with white piping.
 
45-19 heading into week 5, and no Saints this week. Sigh. :hmm:

Well, there's still FOOTBALL!!! :hyper:

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Cincinnati @ Baltimore: Ratbirds are P!$$ED after the "don't even breathe on Brady Bowl" last week. Carson Palmer pays the price - Cincy 17 Brawltimore 31

Complete shock. :hmm: Is Baltimore's D of the Century finally showing its age? And stupid play by Ray Lewis, well..not really surprising, he's kinda a thug, and really showed it on that one. -1

Oakland @ NY Giants: Wow, who gave the Giants this schedule? Tampa, KC, and Oakland all in a row? :eek: G men sit Eli this week, David Carr gets a W by giving the ball to a running back on 9 out of 10 plays, G men gear up to go 5-0, and face a 4-0 team week 6. ;) - Oakland 6 NYG 24

Yeah, like that took a bit of genius prognostication, right? ;) +1

Dall@$$ @ KC: Poor Chiefs, if Dall@$$ hadn't lost the week before and made Crazy Jerry angry, they might have had a slim chance here. They don't - Cowgirls 23 Chefs 10

Talk about backing into a lucky win. :rollno: Dall@$$ is above .500 for now, but it won't last. They're very uneven, and in a tough NFC East that will be a BAD THING. Letting an 0-4 Chiefs team push them into OT, a VERY BAD THING for the future in Jerry's World. +1

Washington @ Carolina: Panthers are not as bad as their record indicates (they're not GOOD either...), the Skins are WORSE than theirs indicates. Not even close, Panthers take their 0-3 frustrations out on the hapless Skins - Washington 10 Carolina 35

Carolina fans, don't get too excited, the 'Skins are almost as hopeless as TB or St. L., this shouldn't have been a 3-point game, but it was. Not good. +1

Minnesota @ St. Louis: How bad can they be? This bad - Minnesota 42 St. Louis 3

St. Louis: :scowl: +1

Tampa Bay @ Philadelphia: How bad can THEY be? This bad - Philly 34 TB 6

Yucs live up to their name. Long season for the Tampon Bray fans coming up. +1

(I actually think there is a chance TWO teams go 0-16 this year :rollno: )

I really think I'm right here. ;)

Pittsburgh @ Detroit: Not fallin' for it this time. :hiding: Detroit is improved, but not THAT improved - Pittsburgh 27 Detroit 10

Detroit is better than everyone thinks. But, not better than the Steelers...however, they made a game out of it. +1

@ Buffalo: Pick 'em. Home team? Dunno who will show up here - Cleveland 10 Buffalo 13

One step up the ladder from Tampa and St. Louis: Buffalo and Cleveland. What an exercise in futility. You win, no, you win, no, I insist, YOU win, but I don't want to, so you win. :rollno: -1

Atlanta @ San Francisco: Foulclowns drop another one, SF is just too much for 'em, and they are not the team their fans wish they were - Foulclowns 17 49ers 31

Will the real 49ers please stand up? :hmm: Atlanta pasted 'em good, but was that because the Foulclowns are that good or the 9ers are that bad? Stay tuned... -1

Houston @ Arizona: Wasn't Arizona in the SB last year? Didn't they actually play WELL in the SB last year? Who are these guys? Houston isn't convincing me either, another "pick 'em" game, this time, away team - Houston 17 Cards 14

Houston is doing everything they can to lose games, no matter how hard they try to win. Doesn't make sense, does it? Nope. -1

New England @ Denver: I hope Elvis Dumervil gets at least 3 sacks on Tommy "DON'T TOUCH ME!" Brady. Good, clean, no way the refs can even think of touching the yellow laundry sacks. Tommy and Billy go home to lick their wounds - Patsies 17 Broncos 24

Well, no sacks of Tommy boy, but a good ff and fr at the end to set things up. Good to see these obnoxious, smug bastriches looking up at .500. +1

Jacksonville @ Seattle: Man, Seattle is looking rough. Jax is looking uneven. Pick 'em again, away team - Jax 24 Seattle 21

I'm DONE with Jax. They suck. Loud. Only way I'm picking these clods to win again is if/when they play Tampa/St. Louis/Washington, or someone of that ilk, and it will be close if/when they do. They are uneven as it gets. -1

Indianapolis @ Tennessee: Ouch. One of the best against one of the worst. Home field does nothing here. How bad can the Titans be? This bad - Colts 45 Titans 17

The Titans are beginning to look THAT bad. Wow. When do the Colts start to actually play NFL football teams? I'm interested to see if their success against college and high school teams translates into anything in the NFL. ;) +1

Jets @ Miami: Jets are frustrated after last week, but that doesn't mean much here, Miami is playing well also. It does mean JUST enough though - NJ Piper Cubs 24 Miami 20

Wow. Just wow. Great game, very entertaining. Miami's D is very good, should be a challenge in 2 weeks. -1

Bye @ New Orleans: Not even a contest, in a Dik-ka-esque skit, Bye -341, Saints 1522, and Drew plays with a blindfold on the entire second half.

;)

Bye put up a good fight for about -0.02549 x 10^11 seconds, but were no match for the Saints in the end. +1 (I won't really count this one ;) )

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8-8 this week, very mediocre. :hmm:

Overall: 53-27

I can do better than this. I WILL do better than this! ;)
 
am i the only one that thinks that denver's throwbacks were cool? especially the socks!

and i wish the pats would switch to a new uni that was more like their throwbacks.. i'm so sick of silver and dark blue... so drab

No I'm with you. I digged the Denver's throwback Jersey.

In addition, I would like to add that it's a great day in Miami. There's nothing better then having bragging rights...especially when Espn, ex-NFL coaches, Rex Ryan, and the majority of the country bets against you so strongly...there's bound to be some excitement in the air. GO FINS!!!! Jets Jets Jets Cry Cry Cry!
 
I'm DONE with Jax. They suck. Loud. Only way I'm picking these clods to win again is if/when they play Tampa/St. Louis/Washington, or someone of that ilk, and it will be close if/when they do. They are uneven as it gets. -1


So.... next week then.

I have no idea what happened on Sunday, the Jags didn't play this week.

But couple things to point out:

1) Jags do not suck. We have a very good quarterback, a very good running back and a decent developmental back, a good TE with WR experience, a good, HOF lock receiver who makes last year's experiments with Jerry Porter look foolish, and a nice developmental receiver corps which will eventually become an elite corps, changing Jax from a traditional Steeler-esque run/stop run team to a gunslinging team. Not really sure how that'll work out with Garrard, but you saw how he played the Pats in the Playoffs a couple years ago.

2) The Jags have a couple of glaring weaknesses which prevent their awesome bits from poking out. Both lines are weak. O-Line is young and inexperienced, outside of Meester and one or two other veterans. Their protection is lacking, and that keeps Dave and Mojo from making plays. The D-Line is also weak. Derek Harvey was a bust, and the secondary has ONE pro-bowler in Rasheen Mathis, but even he makes mistakes here and again. I think this week he just let Housh get in his head.

3) The Jags don't have several defensive players who helped keep the D powerful any more. Stroud is long gone, think he's still in Buffalo. Durant is on IR. Henderson, no idea what happened to him, Peterson either. The offensive players of old are all gone too. Our best hands receiver was cut in the off season, think he's in jail on crack charges right now. Out leading rusher is now a Patriot, and was recently hurt. Again. And now he's going in for season ending surgery, I do believe.

4) The Jags also have traditionally played to the level of their competition. For some odd reason, they fight like hell against powerhouses, and roll over against pushovers (RE: The AFC South). The fact that the Seahawks blew them out on sunday is just an indicator of exactly how much THAT team sucks. :P

5) One loss doesn't mean that the Jags are done. While it does feel suspiciously like last year, the Jags can still go 13-3 on the season. :P

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So.... next week then.

I have no idea what happened on Sunday, the Jags didn't play this week.

But couple things to point out:

1) Jags do not suck. We have a very good quarterback, a very good running back and a decent developmental back, a good TE with WR experience, a good, HOF lock receiver who makes last year's experiments with Jerry Porter look foolish, and a nice developmental receiver corps which will eventually become an elite corps, changing Jax from a traditional Steeler-esque run/stop run team to a gunslinging team. Not really sure how that'll work out with Garrard, but you saw how he played the Pats in the Playoffs a couple years ago.

"HOF lock" receiver? Who???

Losing by 41, scoring no points, and to a team with a losing record in the weakest division in pro football = suck

:)

2) The Jags have a couple of glaring weaknesses which prevent their awesome bits from poking out. Both lines are weak. O-Line is young and inexperienced, outside of Meester and one or two other veterans. Their protection is lacking, and that keeps Dave and Mojo from making plays. The D-Line is also weak. Derek Harvey was a bust, and the secondary has ONE pro-bowler in Rasheen Mathis, but even he makes mistakes here and again. I think this week he just let Housh get in his head.

No good line play = losing games by the fist full (speaking from experience here)

If you can't get pressure on D, QB's will eat you up; if you can't block/pass protect on O, you can't score and you end up punting a lot.

No good O & D line = losing season time

3) The Jags don't have several defensive players who helped keep the D powerful any more. Stroud is long gone, think he's still in Buffalo. Durant is on IR. Henderson, no idea what happened to him, Peterson either. The offensive players of old are all gone too. Our best hands receiver was cut in the off season, think he's in jail on crack charges right now. Out leading rusher is now a Patriot, and was recently hurt. Again. And now he's going in for season ending surgery, I do believe.

Guys that aren't on your team any longer AREN'T ON YOUR TEAM. What was isn't what is, etc, etc, etc.

I know all about the IR list for a team, it's been a huge issue in NOLA the past two seasons. Great teams win with who is on the active roster, no matter what.

4) The Jags also have traditionally played to the level of their competition. For some odd reason, they fight like hell against powerhouses, and roll over against pushovers (RE: The AFC South). The fact that the Seahawks blew them out on sunday is just an indicator of exactly how much THAT team sucks. :P

Paging Dr. Freud, paging Dr. Freud!!!

A great team, a WINNING team doesn't play to the level of their competition. They play to THEIR level and bury the competition (see: Patriots, Giants, Steelers [well, until this season ;) ])

5) One loss doesn't mean that the Jags are done. While it does feel suspiciously like last year, the Jags can still go 13-3 on the season. :P

You are really doing your best to take the title of "Most Delusional TalkBass Football Fan" away from me, aren't you?

;)

(...of course, since the Saints have been proving me right - SO FAR - this season, I'm already not "that guy" anymore! :smug: )

...by the way, I'm really not trying to pick on you that much, just having some fun. I'm actually a Jags fan, and pretty upset that they're not looking good.

I'm really bummed at the fan "support" right now as well, this does not bode well for their future in Jax. :hmm: