Not entirely about bassists...

[VW fan]

Was Annette Peacock's "Survival" influential on Me'shells style?
I'm really digging this 1979 groove atm, which I just happened to stumble across recently.

 

[Michedelic]

Was Annette Peacock's "Survival" influential on Me'shells style?
I'm really digging this 1979 groove atm, which I just happened to stumble across recently.

You’d have to ask Me’shell. That’s quite a jump in association, but anything’s possible. I think that you, me, and maybe two other people here know about Annette, a very enigmatic artist. I had her X-Dreams album with Mick Ronson and Bill Bruforfd, and knew she sang with Bruford’s band at some point, but she has so many other releases out as well.

 

[Bob_Ross]

I think that you, me, and maybe two other people here know about Annette

I must be #3.

fwiw I don't hear any Annette in Méshell ...but that says more about how little I listen to either artist.
I will however highly recommend Annette's 1986 album I Have No Feelings

 

[ajkula66]

Guess I'll take # 4....

Annette's music could have influenced anyone and everyone IF they heard it in the first place. She's done such a variety of stuff that I'd have difficulty finding anyone who could properly compare...while I love most of her music, current favourite is "An Acrobat's Heart" from 2000

 

[VW fan]

You’d have to ask Me’shell. That’s quite a jump in association, but anything’s possible. I think that you, me, and maybe two other people here know about Annette, a very enigmatic artist. I had her X-Dreams album with Mick Ronson and Bill Bruforfd, and knew she sang with Bruford’s band at some point, but she has so many other releases out as well.

The jump in association was about vocal style rather than the music itself... specifically comparing Survival to some of Me'shells tracks on Peace Beyond Passion (or atleast parts thereof).
I don't know what the technical term is for this style: it's moreso speaking than singing, though not rap.
Hope this makes sense ☺

 

[Michedelic]

The jump in association was about vocal style rather than the music itself... specifically comparing Survival to some of Me'shells tracks on Peace Beyond Passion (or atleast parts thereof).
I don't know what the technical term is for this style: it's moreso speaking than singing, though not rap.
Hope this makes sense ☺

Peacock is/was an enigmatic artist, coming from a jazz background, but is still fairly under the radar. I’m not saying that Meshell wouldn’t have heard of her, it’s possible, but what I immediately hear in her style is traces of Nina Simone, and maybe Betty Davis and Grace Jones. That sprechgesang vocal motif, or something like it, has been in jazz for a long time(check out King Pleasure and Mose Allison), prevalent in the bop/beatnik era, and Peacock, being almost 20 years older, certainly had the chance to absorb it coming up. That’s the only similarity that I hear.

 

[VW fan]

Guess I'll take # 4....

Annette's music could have influenced anyone and everyone IF they heard it in the first place. She's done such a variety of stuff that I'd have difficulty finding anyone who could properly compare...while I love most of her music, current favourite is "An Acrobat's Heart" from 2000

I've given "An Acrobat's Heart" a good listen today and found it captivating. Not my typical preference stylistically, so I thank you for mentioning it and expanding the breadth of my musical appreciation.

 

[VW fan]

Peacock is/was an enigmatic artist, coming from a jazz background, but is still fairly under the radar. I’m not saying that Meshell wouldn’t have heard of her, it’s possible, but what I immediately hear in her style is traces of Nina Simone, and maybe Betty Davis and Grace Jones. That sprechgesang vocal motif, or something like it, has been in jazz for a long time(check out King Pleasure and Mose Allison), prevalent in the bop/beatnik era, and Peacock, being almost 20 years older, certainly had the chance to absorb it coming up. That’s the only similarity that I hear.

I definitely hear some Nina.
Had a brief listen to Mose today and will continue tomorrow. Thanks for your suggestions.

 

[Michedelic]

Was Annette Peacock's "Survival" influential on Me'shells style?
I'm really digging this 1979 groove atm, which I just happened to stumble across recently.

I'm reanimating this thread to bring to light a newer band that I was still late to the party to, but a British friend just recently wised me up. Why? Because, when the descriptive comparisons start flying, Annette's name keeps popping up. Dry Cleaning 'vocalist' Florence Shaw is more of a spoken word artist(does a wee bit of singing), sardonic stream of consciousness prose with some stinging punchlines (but you have to be tuned in to dry British humor). I hear the connection. The band is killing it, with bass player Lewis Maynard on his way to being a new monster of the low end(love that grind). Anyway, here you go…



I just picked up their second, most recent album(from two years ago), and have been going down the YT video rabbit hole. When I saw it was on the 4AD label, with John Parish producing, I was like, "But of course".