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EXCITING NEWS, you heard it here....:hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:
I wrote to Alex asking about ordering a Two 10 to sit on my Four 10 and whether he could also send the other crossover so I would have both 12 and 4 ohm options, meaning I could swap them over and use it at 4 ohms as a standalone cab.
He just replied to me with the following:
"We've just managed to make a switchable impedance Two10 for someone with a Six10. It's a pretty cool modular solution."
For me this is huge. It effectively means I can ditch every other cab and with a Four 10 and switchable Two 10 do any gig I want. It is also the sign of a company which is listening to its customers and wherever possible developing products to suit.
Of course, pure gas and sheer greed mean I also see a BB2 somewhere in my future ;)


That is great! Switchable, as in flip a switch and it goes form 12 ohm to 4 ohm and vice versa? No harness swap? Almost sounds too good to be true. But if true, I will definitely have to get one eventually, as long as cost is reasonable. I wonder if it will be priced the same, I certainly hope so... but perhaps there is more materials cost. Did he give any indications of availability or other details? If the cost is the same, then when making these available I think he'd immediately sell more Two10's than ever before... I'd been thinking about getting one, but what has held me back is that, as a stand-alone cab, the 12 ohm would have limited applications (just an extension cab, basically) and the 4 ohm HAS to be stand alone and does not have a pairing option.

And yeah, you'll have to get a BB2 also, Tim, I think you'd love it. I keep going back and forth between the Four10 and the BB2, depending on gig, band, venue, and mood. They are both fantastic.
 
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Apparently switchable resistance 2x10 cabs are a thing, maybe Alex has seen the writing on the wall. Here's one -- Dragoon, from Italy-- that has its own thread here on TB today (4 ohm or 16 ohm switchable). Until an hour ago I had never heard of any switchable-impedance 2x10's. Now, I have heard about 2.

DRAGOONDM4210 450W 4-16 Ohm Switchable Handcrafted High Performance 2x10 Inches Bass Speaker Cabinet

Ha. I posted about those cabs long ago and nobody replied. Funny they've been brought up here.
 
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That is great! Switchable, as in flip a switch and it goes form 12 ohm to 4 ohm and vice versa? No harness swap? Almost sounds too good to be true. But if true, I will definitely have to get one eventually, as long as cost is reasonable. I wonder if it will be priced the same, I certainly hope so... but perhaps there is more materials cost. Did he give any indications of availability or other details? If the cost is the same, then when making these available I think he'd immediately sell more Two10's than ever before... I'd been thinking about getting one, but what has held me back is that, as a stand-alone cab, the 12 ohm would have limited applications (just an extension cab, basically) and the 4 ohm HAS to be stand alone and does not have a pairing option.

And yeah, you'll have to get a BB2 also, Tim, I think you'd love it. I keep going back and forth between the Four10 and the BB2, depending on gig, band, venue, and mood. They are both fantastic.
He didn't give me any other details, but no doubt Alex may see all the interest and post about it on this thread. I would certainly expect it to cost a more but that does not bother me as it is like getting two cabs for the price of one. I am loving the Four Ten with my Ampeg V4B at the moment. As a rule I tend to use the Orange AD200 for gigs, but the more open tone of the Ampeg really seems to suit the Four Ten when 100 watts is enough to carry the gig.
 
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Pretty goooood
 
With all due respect to everyone here, the following meet-up did not end well.

In retrospect I should have purchased a BB2.

{ Not wishing to troll, just my personal experience }

I am hoping to have a more-fair comparison opinion when my credit card allows.

Until then, please forgive my over-bearing questions and respectfully note that in Round 1: 3012LF vs 12XN550 Design, my nod goes to the competition, but to be continued...

Cheers!

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BB2 ordered!

At least one cabinet will be headed for the Classified upon arrival ... ;)

Cheers!
 
Conducted a distortion test (amp distortion) with my BB2....what a surprise. I always raved about the natural sounding high end of this cab but I could not expect such a kind of smooth and warm performance. My walkabout, pushed into grind territory with a slight high mid boost sounded really full bodied and organic trough the BB2. The high frequency driver of these cabs is of the greatest quality, almost every other tweetered cab would fail this test. I played with a slight amount of grit and the horn full on, and it did not seem to be harsh at all. Very very impressed.
 
Conducted a distortion test (amp distortion) with my BB2....what a surprise. I always raved about the natural sounding high end of this cab but I could not expect such a kind of smooth and warm performance. My walkabout, pushed into grind territory with a slight high mid boost sounded really full bodied and organic trough the BB2. The high frequency driver of these cabs is of the greatest quality, almost every other tweetered cab would fail this test. I played with a slight amount of grit and the horn full on, and it did not seem to be harsh at all. Very very impressed.


Cool. FWIW, the Walkabout on top of a couple of tweeterless One10s is also a superb sounding rig.......I mean reaaaaaally superb!!!
 
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How does the Super Twin compare to the Retro 210+110 stack volume and tone wise? The 10's have more treble extension but if you crank the highs does the Twin hold its own? I was surprised by the highs in Kringle77's demo. The cabinet didn't sound dark which surprised me for a 212 without a mid driver or a tweeter. What about the low end envelope? The Retro 10's have that sealed vib which is a nice controlled low end without being thin. The BB2 and Big Twin 2 seem to have a huge but tight low end. Wondering if the Super Twin falls somewhere in between? Alex mentioned earlier that is has a nice traditional thump. I seem to be dialing in quite a bit of passive tone control on my mid-loaded cabs which are very articulate in the upper mids and low treble. My Demeter VTBP-800D, GK MBF800, and Magellan 800 amps have a nice mix of heft, warmth, and brightness on tap. I'm wondering if these with a Super Twin would give a good traditional sound for rock, blues, funk, and modern country? Might not miss the tweeter if the upper mids have good presence and that subtle treble extension is there when you crank the highs.
 
I just put my Mesa Carbine M9 into a slick little 3U Gator case. It sits atop my old Fender cabinet, which rattles badly every time I play a C#.

This is torture waiting for my BB2.

I guess I'll take my tape measure outside and see if it might fit in my trunk, since I can't get my bass hardcase in there :)

Edit: Yup, it'll so easily fit in the trunk of my 2007 STI. With room to spare. I think I might also be able to get the head and pedal board in there :)
 
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Well I know I sound like a broken record, but I played my first gig with my Mesa D800 / (2) One10 setup. It was glorious. The Barefaced/Mesa setup is perfect for me. Plenty of volume and bottom booty. My Music Man never sounded better, my wife who plays in the band even gave an unsolicited compliment as to how good my bass sounded. Life is good.

Now if I was only 25 again.
 
Used the Fender Super Bassman with the Four 10 at a jam yesterday and was tremendously impressed. It really brings out the versatility of the Fender Super Bassman and responds easily and well to amp adjustments, I don't think it is possible to get a bad tone out of this combination. I seem to have gone off the Orange AD200 combination with the Four 10 a little, it sounds a bit dark to me now. The Orange remains magic with my Bergantino NV215 though, so that sorts out that pairing. Ampeg V4B really opens out the Four Ten without being bright, but the Super Bassman seems to be able to get anything you want from the speaker with ease.
 
That's nice to hear! I've also noticed the same thing with my hiwatt DR405 (I have Two10), EQ becomes very versatile! :) Also the EQ on Stingray works great.

Only problem is, box can take so much low end, and amp breaks down at high volume at really low frequencies (probably too small output transformer), and I want MOAR! lol :) So I will probably break out my 600 w power amp, and build hiwatt style tube preamp and see how that works :)

It would be nice if barefaced made rack cases to match style of their cabs :) And also to be lightweight, standard ones are heavy.




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I know the BF website says that a single Two10 has a recommended power amp wattage of 100 to 500 watts and is safe with up to 800W if you're running fairly clean sounds (not really sure exactly what that means) but for you folks running a D800 or MB800 into a single 4 ohm Two10, how concerned are you about putting too much wattage into the cab?