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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
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Lowendtech
Happily trending in my own peculiar direction.
Thanks. I may just pm you on that when you're ready. I'm in Caledonia. Not too far. I've got an itch to try one of the twelve series cabs.
I'll post when it arrives. Also have the barefaced 810 u can test out
Although your question was about Quilter experience, of which I have none, I do know (IMO disclaimer) the MB200 to be very good in combination with a One10. There are more than a few TBer's I've seen that also find this to be true. I use that combo often; they seem to compliment each other well, with their respective characteristics.
I also like the GK Fusion800 with the Four10.
I would hypothesize that a GK MB500 or 800 would also sound quite good with a Two10 or two One10's. The normal slightly bright EQ profile of the GK melds well with the no-tweet semi-vintage characteristic of the BF 10's, and I find I have something pretty tasty in between the two that suits me well.
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I just picked up a new-to-me Big Baby II and am shocked at how loud it can get, even with my amps at seemingly sane settings (input gain and master volume of my MB800 and D-800 at about 11:00-12:00 and with the pad or active switch engaged). I can't imagine the kind of air you could move with an EIGHT10!
But it would be fun to find out.
Ordered myself a SM for xmas
Didn't expect it arrive before xmas but it did, thanks Alex!
Really surprised how much low end comes out of this little box
And it isn't even broken in yet
Now I need a good gig to pair it with my BB2
Didn't expect it arrive before xmas but it did, thanks Alex!
Really surprised how much low end comes out of this little box
And it isn't even broken in yet
Now I need a good gig to pair it with my BB2
I've sent an email to barefaced asking about their recommendations but I don't expect to hear anything til after the new year so thought I'd check with you fine folks. For those with the Big Twin, does it still sound good at lower volumes? I am looking for a one cab solution and will be going from medium-large rooms with loud bands down to jazz combo gigs and a bunch in between. I really want the 610 but I don't think it'll go over very well with the combo and big band gigs.
I have the SuperTwin, it sounds wonderful (and huge!) at lower volumes.
I'd expect, just as tallboybass says it does, that the Big Twin would sound just as awesome at low volumes as at higher volumes. That would be killer. I know the Big Baby 2 sounds great at low volume or high.
If you were thinking about the Six10, perhaps you might want to consider the Four10? I seriously doubt there are many gigs that the Four10 would leave you wishing you had the Six10 instead. And it's smaller, lighter, less intimidating to jazz guys lol.
Wouldn't want to talk anybody out of anything they like-- the Big Twin would certainly be fantastic, and I am sure you'd be very happy. Just want to mention that the Four10 sounds pretty incredible too. Big Twin does have wheels where Four does not, but at only 49 pounds the Four10 is not too heavy for regular use.
You are in a win-win situation, choosing Barefaced cabs.
Since getting a Big Twin 2 months ago I have used it for; app. 10 gigs, a couple of medium volume rehearsals, and practicing at home. I have found it to perform equally as well in all situations. When I use it for low volume practicing and medium volume rehearsals I can not identify any discernible difference in the performance of the cabinet: this was one of the selling points for me as I tend to use 1 rig for all of my needs to maintain consistency.
So here's something I have been wondering about re: combining Barefaced cabs.
Regarding cabs with horns -- Big Baby 2, Super Midget -- isn't there some small negative effect of having 2 horns in use? There's a reason why there is still just one horn in a Big Twin... beaming and dispersion can be (theorectically) hampered by having two horns doing the same thing, I'd think. Perhaps it depends on the vertical alignment of the horns, though. I know when I stack a BB2 and a SM the horns do not align exactly (off just a bit). And dialing the horn down or off on one of them doesn't necessarily mitigate this -- those frequencies are still there, just coming out of the driver, in the 2nd cab; and the source of the freq's are not vertically aligned in that case, either.
Is there no problem with having 2 horns, or having the same freq's coming out of a horn and a driver, in pairing 2 cabs?
And if one IS stacking two cabs with horns, is it better to set the horns the same, or to dial one down and let those frequencies come from the driver in the 2nd cab? Seems like that might be less desirable than just running both horns on, but I really don't know.
Caveat -- it is probably a miniscule difference, and I have never noticed any kind of problem, ever, in stacking those cabs, personally... always sounds good to my ear on the occasions I've stacked them...but if it weren't a real "thing", then Barefaced would not go to pains to have vertical alignment of higher-frequency drivers such as the Four10 (only one vertical pair of the 4 speakers has high end content).
Maybe a Big Twin is actually better, in terms of sonic dynamics, than 2 BB2's or a BB2 and SM, since it only has one source for those highs and therefore there can be no vertical misalignment affecting sound?
Thoughts?
Whenever I express some kind of technical opinion on the BF cabs, of which I have four, usually Alex comes along and sets me straight. But I am interested in all opinions, in addition to Alex's, on this, though naturally I value Alex's opinions highly on such matters.
Regarding cabs with horns -- Big Baby 2, Super Midget -- isn't there some small negative effect of having 2 horns in use? There's a reason why there is still just one horn in a Big Twin... beaming and dispersion can be (theorectically) hampered by having two horns doing the same thing, I'd think. Perhaps it depends on the vertical alignment of the horns, though. I know when I stack a BB2 and a SM the horns do not align exactly (off just a bit). And dialing the horn down or off on one of them doesn't necessarily mitigate this -- those frequencies are still there, just coming out of the driver, in the 2nd cab; and the source of the freq's are not vertically aligned in that case, either.
Is there no problem with having 2 horns, or having the same freq's coming out of a horn and a driver, in pairing 2 cabs?
And if one IS stacking two cabs with horns, is it better to set the horns the same, or to dial one down and let those frequencies come from the driver in the 2nd cab? Seems like that might be less desirable than just running both horns on, but I really don't know.
Caveat -- it is probably a miniscule difference, and I have never noticed any kind of problem, ever, in stacking those cabs, personally... always sounds good to my ear on the occasions I've stacked them...but if it weren't a real "thing", then Barefaced would not go to pains to have vertical alignment of higher-frequency drivers such as the Four10 (only one vertical pair of the 4 speakers has high end content).
Maybe a Big Twin is actually better, in terms of sonic dynamics, than 2 BB2's or a BB2 and SM, since it only has one source for those highs and therefore there can be no vertical misalignment affecting sound?
Thoughts?
Whenever I express some kind of technical opinion on the BF cabs, of which I have four, usually Alex comes along and sets me straight. But I am interested in all opinions, in addition to Alex's, on this, though naturally I value Alex's opinions highly on such matters.
Not only is that a gorgeous bass, it's a perfect match for the Fender head and the vintage cloth FOUR10.I'd expect, just as tallboybass says it does, that the Big Twin would sound just as awesome at low volumes as at higher volumes. That would be killer. I know the Big Baby 2 sounds great at low volume or high.
If you were thinking about the Six10, perhaps you might want to consider the Four10? I seriously doubt there are many gigs that the Four10 would leave you wishing you had the Six10 instead. And it's smaller, lighter, less intimidating to jazz guys lol.
Wouldn't want to talk anybody out of anything they like-- the Big Twin would certainly be fantastic, and I am sure you'd be very happy. Just want to mention that the Four10 sounds pretty incredible too. Big Twin does have wheels where Four does not, but at only 49 pounds the Four10 is not too heavy for regular use.
You are in a win-win situation, choosing Barefaced cabs.
Thank you Dave, I appreciate the kind words, and I tend to agree. I have never tried to be "vintage" but the gig I play most is a pretty vintage kind of jazz-blues thing, so it's been fun to kind of go that way. The 50's P (other basses too) through the Super Bassman into the Four10 is just incredible sounding IMO. I just started to get into tube heads this fall/winter, and the Barefaced 10's of all makes really sound terrific with tube amps. Maybe its puppy love since I just got the SB, but man, the Super Bassman into the Four10 might be the best-sounding amp/cab combo I've ever had. I took the BB2 out last night just so she wouldn't be jealous.
I should have also added that I can't imagine the volume level you could get with a FOUR10. 
I've got a Bergantino AE410 which sounds quite nice, and can get loud, but I'm thinking I'm going to end up with a second BB2 (or maybe an SM) and that the pair would replace it as well as give me the additional flexibility of using just one cabinet if that's all I need. I did tell a friend who has a student who's looking for newer and nicer gear that the Berg is available and I sent pictures of it a few days ago. I haven't officially put it up for sale yet, but I guess that means I at least made the decision.
I've never owned a tube amp myself. Would love to, but the power/weight of a good class D head is too appealing to me so I'm sticking with them for the foreseeable future (a four or five pound head and 29 pound cabinet, hell yeah!). But that won't stop me from drooling over the sound of a nice tube head, though.
I've got a Bergantino AE410 which sounds quite nice, and can get loud, but I'm thinking I'm going to end up with a second BB2 (or maybe an SM) and that the pair would replace it as well as give me the additional flexibility of using just one cabinet if that's all I need. I did tell a friend who has a student who's looking for newer and nicer gear that the Berg is available and I sent pictures of it a few days ago. I haven't officially put it up for sale yet, but I guess that means I at least made the decision.I've never owned a tube amp myself. Would love to, but the power/weight of a good class D head is too appealing to me so I'm sticking with them for the foreseeable future (a four or five pound head and 29 pound cabinet, hell yeah!). But that won't stop me from drooling over the sound of a nice tube head, though.
