And cost? The Berg tolex is nicer.....much, IMHO. I realize that recessed bar handles would entail more changes to the box, but they simply work better in all ways.
Totally agree. I'm still not a fan of the covering or hardware.
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And cost? The Berg tolex is nicer.....much, IMHO. I realize that recessed bar handles would entail more changes to the box, but they simply work better in all ways.
And cost? The Berg tolex is nicer.....much, IMHO. I realize that recessed bar handles would entail more changes to the box, but they simply work better in all ways.
I wouldn't say "big" but I went from a GK 2 x 112 set up to a Super Twin. It was a easily manged rig already, but I was blown away by how light the Super Twin was. I can put it on my shoulder and carry it no problem.
I had my doubts about how loud it can be. I read all the literature and decided to take a chance on innovation. The first thing you will notice is how complete the tone is. "Flat" is an unattractive word for me. ALL of your frequencies are there and represented in the best ways. That alone makes it seem louder.
I ran it at practice next to an Ampeg 810 rig and it definitely held its own without sounding like I was pushing it too hard. I was playing with two guitar stacks running full tilt, so I'd say it does well.
I haven't been able to beat the stuffing out of it since we are recording right now and not practing as much.
The more I use my Four 10 the more convinced I am that it will do most stages. I have a Fender neo 810 but have never AB'd the two side by side - that said, the more power I feed into the Four 10 it just gets louder without farting out. So light, too.
Sorry, I know you were asking about the 212.....
I haven't owned an 8x10 per se, but I regularly use the Behringer and Ampeg 8x10s in a rented rehearsal room and in rented backlines, both which I have ab'd with my Supertwin, and I can tell you the Barefaced can definitely keep up with them volume wise, and do so while providing fuller lows at the same time.
I have done such tests with a Genz Benz Shuttle Max 9.2 and a Tecamp Puma 900, both fully crancked in a LOUD metal band with 2 Marshall halfstacks, keys and a heavy-handed drummer, and had no problem being heard...actually I have been asked to turn down a couple times while using the Barefaced, so no worries there.
In fact, I think the Supertwin can probably take more than both of these 900 watts amps can deliver, so perhaps I'll give it a try with a 1200 watts amp (not that I'll ever need that much volume, but just for curiosity's sake)...
I used to own a GK Neo410 and a Schroeder 21012L, and the Supertwin puts out substantially more volume and low end than this cabs, (while being also substantially lighter and much easier and comfortable to carry around), and so far I haven't been able to make it fart out, even with a lot of bass boost in both the amp and bass...my amps start clipping sooner...
These are exactly the kind of experiences I was looking for! Thanks, guys. Much appreciated! I'm gonna try to hit Alex up next week and get this party started...
Me too. I like this finish and having both One10 and SM the painted finish of SM seems to be more robust and durable than vinyl of One10.I'm in the minority here, as I like the finish.
Bugera is Behringer...get the AguilarI was reading the raves about the Bugera Veyron amp and was wondering if anyone in this thread has used either the tube or the mosfet and how it pushed the BF. I know the 2K watts is over exaggerated but am still curious about how it would push my BTII.
Also has anyone tried the new Aguilar AG700 with their BF cabs.
Thanks Steve
Bugera is Behringer...get the Aguilar
i have not tried either one. I have the TH500 and would like to hear my cab with another amp. I have an Ampeg SVT6Pro but it is a beast at 46lbs. I have it in a rack case but really don't want to have to carry it and it is not going to sit right on the cab. My guitar player wants me to try it but wow so heavy.but have you tried it?

Can't say that I have. I have played most of the Aguilar amps and products and love them. I use a GK MB Fusion 800 and Acoustic Image Clarus. They are both terrific.but have you tried it?
Pictures please.The new rig is complete, got my AG 700 yesterday, haven't plugged it in yet but wanted to share my setup with yall.
Love it, that thing would look great on top my BTII.Picture is attached...