Well, right now it sounds killer, but I'm at bedroom volume or slightly louder. I'll be able to give you a much better opinion after tomorrow night. I'm expecting an xlnt tone night...
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Well, right now it sounds killer, but I'm at bedroom volume or slightly louder. I'll be able to give you a much better opinion after tomorrow night. I'm expecting an xlnt tone night...
Have fun at the gig, let us know how the cab held it's self? 
My cab is almost finished.. can't wait for it to get here and be 'real' as well
I received the 'pay up' -email, but no IBAN + Swift/BiC account was mentioned for the banktransfer.. which is what i (my bank) need.
My cab is almost finished.. can't wait for it to get here and be 'real' as well
I received the 'pay up' -email, but no IBAN + Swift/BiC account was mentioned for the banktransfer.. which is what i (my bank) need.
Pbassmanca
In the pocket n' thumpy. So woody, so greasy...
Wow! I didn't realize until seeing that picture with all your gear how compact the Barefaced 410 is! I'm strongly considering purchasing a Barefaced product once in a position to do so, but I find several of their products appeal to me and I'm not sure which way to go. I'm definitely a fan of colored Old School Bass tone , as I'm playing mostly Funk and R&B from the late 60s through the 70s. Couple questions for you. First of all how do you like the sound of your Mesa amps through the BF410? I have an M9 carbine which I love and I'm curious to know how Mesa gear sounds through Barefaced cabs. Secondly, how loud and low does it get, and how do you find the dispersion of tone around a stage particularly in the mid-range? Looks like an amazing rig you have their brother , enjoy it and play the scheisse out of it!Doing some amp comparisons at home tonight through my Four10.
Right? I had a Two10 so I shouldn't be shocked st the size of the Four10. However it looks super compact
Pbassmanca
In the pocket n' thumpy. So woody, so greasy...
Is yours the 8ohm or the 2ohm?Right? I had a Two10 so I shouldn't be shocked st the size of the Four10. However it looks super compact
Have fun at the gig, let us know how the cab held it's self?
My cab is almost finished.. can't wait for it to get here and be 'real' as well
I received the 'pay up' -email, but no IBAN + Swift/BiC account was mentioned for the banktransfer.. which is what i (my bank) need.
I highly recommend paypal for making a payment to Barefaced. I looked into bank transfer and it was kind of a nightmare. Did paypal instead, and it was simple, and actually didn't cost more than what the sire transfer fee to the bank would have been. Others have tried to pay by transfer and got nowhere, and in the end did paypal anyway, with much more reliable results, with less efforts.
I don't think you can go wrong with any Barefaced cabs, I have several which is an embarrassment of riches-- though I may never buy another cab as long as my live, so that's a plus. I seem to drift from one to another in terms of which is my "favorite", and back again. I have and love the Four10, and at 49 pounds and 24" x 24 x 13 it is quite compact. I especially like it with tube amps. Right now I have drifted back to the Big Baby II (usually with a GK MBF800 amp), after mostly using the Super Midget for a while. Used that setup the last two nights and it has killed. Really depends on what sound you're going for, and I tend to change in what sound is my objective, depending on situation, type of music, and on random variance in my preferences of the moment.
Thank you sir. As far as your questions go:
1) Both Mesas sound great through the cabinet. The Four10 does the sealed cab tone really well, only with more punchy lows. My personal preference is toward the D800 so I will probably end up listing the Prodigy at some point in the near future, but that is more personal amp preference than anything else. I've owned an M6 Carbine in the past, and from what I remember, the M6/M9 are more modern, the Walkabouts are more vintage sounding, and the Subways are pretty much in the middle.
2) It gets very loud and more punchy than super deep. There is a lot of low end, but the cabinet doesn't go as low as the modern 12 designs due since it is styled to be more of a vintage sealed cabinet. The dispersion is great - we ran the D800/Four10 combo at a local open mic a few weeks ago as a backline, and I played a little guitar on the opposite side of the stage for a bit. I could hear the bass clear as day on my side, it was almost louder than the guitars and monitors were. I've been pretty impressed with the engineering of these cabs, so much that I'm considering a Two10 to have a modular 610 stack!.
For the record I've never played any of their cabs with the 12"s in them, so I don't know how they compare tone wise. But I've been very happy with my purchase of the Four10.
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Did PayPal on my first Super Compact and it was easy as pie. Went with a bank transfer on the second one and it was a PITA. The next BF cab I get
I'll definitely use PayPal again.
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I don't have a Mesa amp at the moment, but I do have a Big Twin II and a Four10. I agree with all your observations about the the Four10.
With a Reiner Classic 1200 amp, both cabs sound amazing. The Four10 has the punch, and the BTII has the amazing piano response everywhere, and the singing highs are beautiful. So far, when rock gigs come up, I've always taken the Four10 because that punch is exactly what I need. It has just enough lows and highs, but what you really hear are the punchy mids, as it should be. And you hear it everywhere, indoor or outdoors, standing right by the amp, to the side, out there in front, the dispersion is great. It sounds big in the bass and with a pick you hear the nice stringy ringy noises, but it's much more mid focused than the modern cabs, while still being more fullrange than an actual vintage cab.
I have to say something about the dispersion. During my last outdoor gig I moved behind the cab, a bb2, and to my surprise it sounded super defined. I didn't expect that, the dispersion is useful but behind the cab I don't expect that sort of clarity and definition. Highs and high mids are directional. How can we explain that? It was dome sort of boundary reflection, as
I was outdoor but the cab was pointing towards walls forming a sort of open air theatre, ot there is some technical reason proper to the bb2? Alex?
I was outdoor but the cab was pointing towards walls forming a sort of open air theatre, ot there is some technical reason proper to the bb2? Alex?
I got my hands on an AG700. I'm not able to give a direct comparison because my MBF800 is still blown. The AG700 has much fuller midrange presence, whereas the MBF800 is more of a scooped sound. The tube growl is lacking in the AG700 but it still has that Aguilar punch. Both are amazing amps. I wish I could afford to own both of them!
Pbassmanca
In the pocket n' thumpy. So woody, so greasy...
I have a Barefaced 810 and the Big Twin II, I'm in Guelph. PM me you are welcome to come test mine.
Well, my gig report will hafta be kinda short, since I'm at work, LOL!
The best term I can use to describe this cab is HOLY AMAZE-A-BALLS! Up until the we launched into the first tune, I was, admittedly, still skeptical of some of the hype. I could tell that it was extremely well built, and that it feels lighter than it's listed weight, but claiming that this 212 would be as loud/deep/full as a 412 or an 810? Really? Come on...
Halfway through the intro, I was a believer...
This is, quite simply, one of the most amazing pieces of bass guitar technology in existence today! It is exactly as it has been described: deep, full(without being overpowering)lows. It's deeper than my Ampeg PN410s and WAY deeper than my LDS 15/6/1s. The midrange is present and articulate. Again, it's better than the Ampegs, and as good or slightly better than my LDS's. And the high end is sweet, without the harshness. As usual, it's better than my other cabs. I think one of the things that was super cool was how well this cab takes EQ. I am still messing around with different EQ profiles, but the cab responded well to every change I made. The D800+ has a bunch of versatility, so you can get pretty out there with settings, but the cab took it all in stride. I love the D800+, but I'm gonna try the cab with my rack setup(Empirical Labs Mike-E preamp/Empirical Labs Lil FrEQ eq strip/QSC GX7 power amp and an Arkham Sound Zephyr tube preamp with the QSC)just to put a bit more power through the cab.
The Jaco quote applies 100% to this cab, It ain't braggin' if you can back it up. Barefaced cabs back it up.
(Yeah, Jaco didn't say it originally and he paraphrased the crap out of it, but we're bass players, so we wanna give credit to other bass players, even if they don't deserve it, LOL!)
The best term I can use to describe this cab is HOLY AMAZE-A-BALLS! Up until the we launched into the first tune, I was, admittedly, still skeptical of some of the hype. I could tell that it was extremely well built, and that it feels lighter than it's listed weight, but claiming that this 212 would be as loud/deep/full as a 412 or an 810? Really? Come on...
Halfway through the intro, I was a believer...
This is, quite simply, one of the most amazing pieces of bass guitar technology in existence today! It is exactly as it has been described: deep, full(without being overpowering)lows. It's deeper than my Ampeg PN410s and WAY deeper than my LDS 15/6/1s. The midrange is present and articulate. Again, it's better than the Ampegs, and as good or slightly better than my LDS's. And the high end is sweet, without the harshness. As usual, it's better than my other cabs. I think one of the things that was super cool was how well this cab takes EQ. I am still messing around with different EQ profiles, but the cab responded well to every change I made. The D800+ has a bunch of versatility, so you can get pretty out there with settings, but the cab took it all in stride. I love the D800+, but I'm gonna try the cab with my rack setup(Empirical Labs Mike-E preamp/Empirical Labs Lil FrEQ eq strip/QSC GX7 power amp and an Arkham Sound Zephyr tube preamp with the QSC)just to put a bit more power through the cab.
The Jaco quote applies 100% to this cab, It ain't braggin' if you can back it up. Barefaced cabs back it up.
(Yeah, Jaco didn't say it originally and he paraphrased the crap out of it, but we're bass players, so we wanna give credit to other bass players, even if they don't deserve it, LOL!)
Sometimes I find in setting things ahead of playing a gig that it seems like there's too much high mids when playing alone with the BB2... I can easily dial it away and the cab takes this EQ which is the advantage of having such clarity and even response up and down the frequency spectrum. You have the musical information in those high midranges but can take them out easily if you don't want them. I quickly learned not to take them out because when playing with a full band those frequencies are just perfect for cutting through the mix and having presence and clarity. Of course this principle applies with any cab, but I find it to be especially significant with these cabs because they are so free of color and reproduce exactly what is there.
Last week end my live tone was "prepared" playing trough the DI and listening with studio grade headphones...well, not really. I want to say that I found a tone I liked and worked in the studio and when playing live the tone was the same, only way louder. This is the first time it happens in my life. usually the studio tone is a thing and when amplifying you simply has to accomodate and accept a certain sort of change due to the rig and big speakers. Using the mesa walkabout with a mild overdrive and a pick the tone was a bit biting, maybe a tad too much, but the cab allows a fine tuning with EQ like nothing else. Even a fraction of a db has a clear effect. These cabs do excel if the user knows frequencies and has a good expertise with live sound and band mix. Luckily I am a studio guy and I can literally shape the tone coming out of the BB2 in a predictable manner, and avoiding mistakes. these cabs do not forgive. having a good eq, especially parametric and a poor knowledge can bring a disaster, but if you know what you are doing the heaven has no limits. Albeit I am truly satisfied, I became curious about the barefaced tens, for a coloured vintage tone and using a good amount of distortion.
Pbassmanca
In the pocket n' thumpy. So woody, so greasy...
Hey DirtyDuke, thank you for the offer! I will PM you when I think I'll have some free time. (whenever that will be!...
) I'm in Oshawa, and there's a case or bottle of your favorite brew or spirit in it for your trouble!
