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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

#608
Glad you're both liking your Super Twins! We're still working on a better version of the manual and there will be some informative graphics in there about what happens down low and up top.

In short the cone itself has a subtle broad peak at around 3kHz on-axis but as the dispersion is narrowing somewhat there it sounds pretty much flat around the room. Above that point the output of the cone rolls off - however, and this is the big HOWEVER, the dustcap itself (the little dome in the middle) acts as an independent sonic radiator, like having a 3" midrange driver in the middle of the 12" woofer (concentric). The sensitivity of this quasi-midrange-driver is 15dB or so lower so its effect is quite subtle - but boost the treble and you can certainly hear it! The output from this 3" dome extends past 10kHz before it rolls off.

I know a lot of more techy bass players think that a cab has no useful output beyond its -10dB points but bear in mind that -10dB is only half loudness - when you play notes that are half as loud as other notes does the rest of the band suddenly cease to hear them? Nope! The same holds true for the broader frequency range coming from your instrument loudspeaker.
 
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#611
alexclaber said:
The last version of the manual in on our site here: http://barefacedbass.com/technical-information.htm

The as yet unfinished one is about 20 pages long with pictures and graphs and stuff! Still debating whether to include a printed one with each cab or not - what goes everyone think?
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I am not a tech-savvy bass player so a lot of it would be lost on me. At the same time, if it's a no/low cost, it would be a nice "added bonus" although I wonder how many people would pull their cab out of the box, put it aside and start reading the manual :D

Like I mentioned earlier (twice, I believe) I was wondering during rehearsal if the increase in "boom" (i.e. bass, dept, presence etc) was in my head, or whether it was real. Having read back through the thread I am guessing it was real :) I have a day off on Friday (paired with a rehearsal) and a gig on Saturday so I am going to put my Super Twin to good use :hyper:

Now Alex, how about that 8x8 EPB Special .... :D
 
#613
Another 45 minutes comparing the twin to the nv610. They are about the same sensitivity, the nv might sound a bit louder but, I think that is due to have a slight bump in the low mids. At first I thought the nv had much more full punch in 80-300hz range that the twin couldn't touch but, then I switched flip flopped the position of both cabs and the berg thinned out. So, to get a real ideal whats going on, I'll have to wait until it gets nice out and bring the cabs outside. My gut says that the berg still will hit harder at loud volumes but, we'll have to see. Both cabs have a similar character in tone. And let's face it, if it's february and you have to drag gear through the snow and climb stairs, you're going to grab the twin. Really cranked up with eq flat, the berg developes that awsome, aggressive growl that we all like. The twin gets alittle more aggressive but still like a small boost at around 1.6k to growl, maybe a small treble boost too. Yes, the twin has better dispersion. I would really love to use a pair of either cab at a gig. One pair is way heavier though.
 
#614
That twin sounds like a winner, especially at that small size and weight. From your experience, do those 12XN550 drivers noticeably outperform the 3012LF? I know they have a wider freq response and probably better mids but do they hit harder?
 
#615
Hmmm, yeah, smaller, lighter, better mids and top. They are alittle more efficient, even more controlled, I think they hit harder. Not much, but it is a focused sound. I pushed an AE410 to it's limits, this cab goes beyond what the AE could do and the bottom end is more controlled and defined. As far as overall output, the nv610 may edge it out but, it wouldn't be by much. I won't know until I can get these cabs outside. I mean really, there isn't another cab out there like it. It's small, 40lbs, loud and sounds great. Most players would never ever use the full output of this cab. I can only think of 2 gigs where I would use more. I really really love my lds 12125 and it does a few things that the twin doesn't but, the twin does THE things that I need. Who knows, I may get a second one someday. Man that would be badass.
 
#616
You know, this cab is great just as much for what it isn't. It has a character but, it's no so strong that you have to waste eq to fix anything. It kind of sits in the middle zone where, it's is mostly flat but, has enough character so that it sounds like a bass cab. Thats something alot of builders have missed. In fact, instead of boosting some upper frequency to be heard at a lower volume, you can just turn up the volume and not be annoying, just heard. At low volumes with everthing set flat, the cab sounds pretty basic and not that bright, but when I turn the genz up to loud volume Im rewarded with a sound that would pretty much work for anthing and isn't annoying or harsh. A good basic tone.
 
#617
Tonight I used my trusty joemeek sixq and summit audio td-100 with the twin. Talk about fat! These both have a full bottom end that extends all the way down, unlike the genz sm9.2 or VTRM preamp. Maybe I could be a lover of big bottom end after all......
 
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