Agreed on the four 10 sitting in the mix very well. I power 1 to 2 four10's with a d800. The brightness wasn't there for me but a dg b3k took care of that issue.
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Agreed on the four 10 sitting in the mix very well. I power 1 to 2 four10's with a d800. The brightness wasn't there for me but a dg b3k took care of that issue.
Slightly off topic i know, but what's the neck on the P bass?
Is that one of those aluminium necks? Where do get it?
I responded to your message, but I will put my thought here for prosperity as well.
Just the convenience of the ST worth the price. There is no other cab like it on the market. Everyone is stunned as to how light it is. The skin is solid and the construction is tight. If you knock on it, it doesn't sound like a drum or empty wood box.
The off axis sound quality is great and room dispersion is good too. It isn't so directional that you have to be standing right in front of it to hear the exact tone it is making.
I get a lot of feedback of the clarity of the ST. It is clear and defined. I also feel like it is pretty even at all volumes. Although, at lower volumes it puts a lot of lows into the walls, so it isn't great for bedroom practicing. If you want a cab that has "character" or "flavor" maybe look at BFs other series of more "vintage" voiced cabs.
Yes that's an Electrical Guitar Company neck on a Fender body. You can either buy new (they release a few batches each year) or used, they pop up on Reverb every now and then. They make necks that fit Fenders and Peaveys.
Lots of other companies do it too, like Robot Graves Industries (US), Alef (Israel), TTTides (Luxembourg), etc. Check out the Aluminium Axes group on FB.
Thanks for the responses...while i like the size and weight of the ST, in the past I have not been a fan of FRFR boxes, this is mostly based on playing through a QSC/powered monitor. However, im not sure this is an accurate analogy?
Like Smeet I too have a Four 10 and a Two 10 (also a One 10) which I often use with a Mesa 800+. The Four 10 alone is sufficient with the 800+ for just about any stage, I sometimes combine it with the Two 10 but in reality unless I was outdoors this is not needed. Agree with Smeet's comments totally, and 10s definitely a good fit with the Mesa. I recently bought an Aguilar DB 751 which is much heavier than the Mesa but those cabs absolutely love the power and headroom. The baked in character of BF 10s means that they sound great with every amp I have tried with them.
I have a super twin and use a Omni cab sim to give it the tone I want. I works really good at adding flavor to the cab.
Thanks for the info Master Chief, will look into those!
A HPF/LPF can work as a cab sim tool as well. The Invalid Link Removed is an excellent to for this as well.
I was thinking the same thing. Even with my BT2, I still would still like to try out a four10,six10, and even eight10
. I've read a few different people try both and prefer the sound of the 10 series of cabs over the 12. I know that's subjective but it does give me thought. GAS is a problem.
Each of those 12's is probably louder than your your 210 rumble all by itself. Then multiply by 2. Ridiculously should about cover it.
I know others are pointing me to the 10's....but the Super Twin seems to be the best balance in price, power and size. From everything i'm reading, the ST sould easily be able to cover what x2 Rumble 210's can.
My helpful suggestion is that you email Alex at Barefaced. Tell him what you want and you'll get the best advice.
We're telling you what's worked for us. What we like. Alex will tell you how to get what you want.
We're telling you what's worked for us. What we like. Alex will tell you how to get what you want.
I should add that the Two 10 easily handles everything my Mesa 800+ can throw at it, the Four 10 even more so. I really appreciate the character that is built into the 10 speakers, and it seems an especially good fit with the Mesa. Of course YMMV but I have never needed to consider any tone shaping pedal with the 10s, which seems to come up regularly with the 12 series.
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Happily trending in my own peculiar direction.
My experience with these choices is only my reference point in my head but I'll offer it up.
I've had all three of the D800 series amps. I currently have the WD800.
I also have a Two10, a BBII and a ST.
The D800 is the "darkest" of the three amps.
The Two10 is the "darkest" of these cabs.
Just something to be aware of.
While I like the BBII just fine, the ST rules with my WD800. Such a great pairing.
I like the Two10 enough to want a second one so I can see what it can do in a fair fight with the ST. I'd consider stacking them tall. As it stands, the ST is the best bang for the buck cab I have. It's rolled off just enough on the top end for me.
I'm not a tweeter guy, but the horn in the BBII is the best I've ever had. But it's not something that I gravitate to, very much.
They're all different flavours of awesome.
Just consider what you're putting in an what you are expecting to come out.
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I use the D800+ with a pair of Two10, and like you find the match to be extremely good.
I owned a Compact and a pair of BB2 in the past, but as good as they were (they were!) I spent a fair amount of time tweaking knobs, while with the Two10 cabs I seem to get there with minimal effort no matter where I play. A lot of it has to do with the amplifier (I like the combination of adjustable HPF + voicing + bass EQ to shape the low end) but using other amplifiers I have a similarly pleasant experience.
I hesitated about the Two10 as I heard them described as 'dark' and 'old school' and I was also mistakenly thinking that I needed a lot higher frequency response, with the idea that I can always tame the top end if I don't want it but won't be able to put it back if the speakers cannot reproduce it... but they roll off at 6 or 7KHz (can't recall) which is plenty for bass. I don't go for old school vintage type of tones at all, these cabs are much more versatile than what their "Retro" label suggests.
Their 12" series is good, no doubt, but I have a feeling that most people would probably find it easier to use their 10" series. I regularly get compliments about my sound, which I didn't when using the Compact or BB2. I play in several bands, covering ska and reggae, funk, and rock... There is thumping, there is slapping, there is overdriven bass (the Two10 are particularly sweet with overdrives)... strong prominent bass in most cases, with tight bottom end and good definition without overpowering anyone...
I'll shut up. I really love these cabs. They've made my life a lot more comfortable, and in particular in combination with the Mesa D800+
The only thing I don't love is that I bought mine after they had gone through some 'teething' problems, where the glue they used was not strong enough and the tolex was peeling off their first cabs within a few months. It was their first foray into using tolex covering and it was a bit unfortunate... although I have a lot of sympathy for them, given how the company started and Alex' ethos. I bought mine after they sorted this... however, 3 years on, one of my cabs started peeling off at the seams on the back, and the other looks like it may go that way soon. It happened rather suddenly, despite my looking after the cabs and never being subjected to extreme temperature changes or anything. It's nowhere near as bad as the first ones, but it's not 'pretty' either.
HOWEVER... and this is something that still impresses me, when I posted some comments on another forum asking for solutions, Alex saw it, tracked me using the serial number of the cab (visible in the picture I posted) and emailed me to discuss it and offer a solution. That alone was pretty cool, I thought. The only reason I didn't contact Barefaced directly was that I did not want a glue kit. I was under the impression that it would be a messy affair, lots of clean up... and I am not very DIY-minded so it would likely look worse after I attempted anything. I am too far from them to consider taking my cabs to them for a retouch. I was considering simply putting some black duct tape around the seams. It's on the back, so it's not exactly going to be visible. But Alex explained to me how the new glue is water-based and temperature activated and the whole process seems pretty painless even for a DIY-hater like me.
I remained a fan, even with slightly peeling tolex, because I love their products and attitude (and have you looked at their guitar cabs? There's something really cool happening there) but those emails from Alex really cemented my faith in them.
I've owned 6 Barefaced cabs in the last 8 years. Series 2 Midget t, Compact 1x15 and Big baby t. Series 3 BB2 and now 2x One10's. I was very sceptical that the one10 would have enough top end, but i bought one anyway to try and use at small gigs. I was proven completely wrong about the top end, there is plenty for me, and I do like a modern sound. Liked the One10 so much I bought an other and moved the BB2 on. Really loving the 10's, 2 have been enough for my needs, but would add another if needed. Using a mesa d800 with these, but i have a d800+ di pedal i feed into aux in for most gigs. The +has a slightly brighter voicing, the deep, bright, and hpf are invaluable
I used too own a super-twin and now i own a TWO10 with my D800+ One of the several reasons I didnt like the ST was the fact that it rolls off at 4khz and sounded really muffled and dark up top. Actually I thought the top-end of the Super-Twin was worse than most cabs i have played.
I sincerely find my two10 more open sounding(still not bright) and generally much easier too nail a sound that sits good in the mix, fat and nice bass with a sweet top-end I actually love this cab and it sounds like a bass-cab. The Barefaced 12s sound like a big PA speaker and if thats your thing go for the 12s, you will then get almost the same sound as the DI from your amp into a PA.
Also, if you use alot of overdrive, the Barefaced 10s is as if they were made for this!
I sincerely find my two10 more open sounding(still not bright) and generally much easier too nail a sound that sits good in the mix, fat and nice bass with a sweet top-end I actually love this cab and it sounds like a bass-cab. The Barefaced 12s sound like a big PA speaker and if thats your thing go for the 12s, you will then get almost the same sound as the DI from your amp into a PA.
Also, if you use alot of overdrive, the Barefaced 10s is as if they were made for this!
Couldnt agree more, my Two10 sits sooo good in the mix, I can hear everything extremely well without needing much volume, with the Super-Twin had too much of everything, my guitarist actually hated that cab
