Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

[Cuzzie]

I have a Supertwin and it eats up what the Tech21 dUg Ultrabass throws at it, and I am probably getting a One10 for lower gain quieter stuff.

Can't wait

Alex has always been super helpful with me too

 

[Hetfield1966]

All,
Ive recently upgraded to a Mesa D800 and am looking for a good cabinet to match (I currently use a Rumble 210). Im strongly considering a Barefaced Super Twin and just looking for inputs/reviews from others with a similar set up. I of course cannot try it ahead of time....but if the Mesa sound "really good" through a Rumble 210, I imagine it will be ridiculously better through a Super Twin? For example, the Rumble does not project as well as id like on stage...also at 350 watts RMS/8 ohms, it cannot handle the full force of the Mesa. I find that with a single 210, i really need to get it up off the floor somewhat in order to hear it well enough. I hoping this would not be an issue with the Super Twin. Thanks in advance.

I own a Mesa D800 and Supertwin. Not much to say other than it sounds great. And Loud.

 

[Karl Kaminski]

I hesitated about the Two10 as I heard them described as 'dark' and 'old school' and I was also mistakenly thinking that I needed a lot higher frequency response, with the idea that I can always tame the top end if I don't want it but won't be able to put it back if the speakers cannot reproduce it... but they roll off at 6 or 7KHz (can't recall) which is plenty for bass. I don't go for old school vintage type of tones at all, these cabs are much more versatile than what their "Retro" label suggests.

Their 12" series is good, no doubt, but I have a feeling that most people would probably find it easier to use their 10" series. I regularly get compliments about my sound, which I didn't when using the Compact or BB2. I play in several bands, covering ska and reggae, funk, and rock... There is thumping, there is slapping, there is overdriven bass (the Two10 are particularly sweet with overdrives)... strong prominent bass in most cases, with tight bottom end and good definition without overpowering anyone...

+1 ^
I went from 12s to 10s for the same reasons.

I remained a fan, even with slightly peeling tolex, because I love their products and attitude (and have you looked at their guitar cabs? There's something really cool happening there) but those emails from Alex really cemented my faith in them.

Have to agree, Alex and all the staff at BF are really attentive and care about your concerns and questions.

 

[Hypercaffium]

I have a question. How do you use the tweeter on your Barefaced cab?
I have a Super Midget and its tweeter is very powerful. Leaving my amp set flat, It can make my J slap tone super bright and my P w/flats very thumpy, depending on the setting. I usually keep it halfway, maybe a little bit towards the brighter side, but I'm curious about what you do. Should it be a "set and forget" kind of thing?
Considering the fact that we can cut highs on both the instrument and the amplifier, what's the reason behind an adjustable tweeter?

 

[chris_b]

I turn the tweeter on my SM full on then dial back about 10%. I use it with an SC. I don't use bright strings or a lot of top on the EQ so the tweeter adds some nice top end to the overall sound of the rig. It seems to be a good balance.

 

[anton72]

I have a question. How do you use the tweeter on your Barefaced cab?
I have a Super Midget and its tweeter is very powerful. Leaving my amp set flat, It can make my J slap tone super bright and my P w/flats very thumpy, depending on the setting. I usually keep it halfway, maybe a little bit towards the brighter side, but I'm curious about what you do. Should it be a "set and forget" kind of thing?
Considering the fact that we can cut highs on both the instrument and the amplifier, what's the reason behind an adjustable tweeter?

I roll the tweeter all way off on my SM, I don't care for anything above 6 kHz on my bass tone. I enjoy the way the BF 12" driver covers all frequency range.

 

[Hypercaffium]

I do like the tone of my SM with the tweeter off, but it depends on the music you play and the bass you use.
Tweeter off, P w/flats and controls dimed, amp with plenty of bass and basically no treble is a great tone, but it doesn't work for everything. The same is for Tweeter full on, J bass w/rounds, amp set pretty bright and mid scooped.
I prefer to set the tweeter in order to get a nice balanced base tone and work from there, but I know it's not so easy sometimes.

 

[Peter]

I have a question. How do you use the tweeter on your Barefaced cab?
I have a Super Midget and its tweeter is very powerful. Leaving my amp set flat, It can make my J slap tone super bright and my P w/flats very thumpy, depending on the setting. I usually keep it halfway, maybe a little bit towards the brighter side, but I'm curious about what you do. Should it be a "set and forget" kind of thing?
Considering the fact that we can cut highs on both the instrument and the amplifier, what's the reason behind an adjustable tweeter?

I leave the tweeters on full on my SMs. Both for BG and DB.

In general, I like to hear as much of my instrument as possible. To me, bass is a percussive as well as a melodic/harmonic instrument and part of the percussion comes from finger noise - much of which is in the higher registers. A good recording engineer will place a extra mike covering your fingers plus one on the neck when recording double bass. He knows that there's click, buzz and growl there which is part of the soundscape.

But the only place to test your preference is when the whole band is playing with you and their view is probably more important than yours. Listening on your own to solo bass at low volumes in your living room isn't going to help you find the right sound in the mix. My band instantly liked the sound of the SMs on full tweeter and said things like "that's the first time I've really heard what you're playing".

 

[Hypercaffium]

That's a good point.
Like I said, I tend to keep the tweeter almost full because I can hear myself better when playing with my band and I hear my basses' differences in character better.
I play passive basses for the most part and I generally prefer to have full treble response on both the first and the last step of the chain (bass and cab) and do all of the adjustments on the amp, depending on the tone I need. That works for me, but I'm curious to hear other opinions.
Speaking about treble with passive basses, some people prefer to set their tone WAY brighter than they need just in case, and roll off treble from the bass.
There are many combinations of tones between intrument and amp, tweeter just add another additional step.

 

[monsterthompson]

Generally no tweeter on the BB2 for bass, since I run dirt. I want the roll off. However I also generally use my BB2 for playback and bass (like a PA), and I run a cab sim, so the tweeter/driver is almost all the way up.

 

[Hypercaffium]

Dirt is another important thing to deal with, of course. When I use dirt (COG 66 Mini) I usually turn the tweeter down or off because it sounds harsh with distortion. When in a band context it doesn't bother me that much though, I can keep the tweeter halfway.

 

[DaveAceofBass]

All these tweeter questions...is all the way off with the knob cranked fully clockwise or counterclockwise?

 

[Hypercaffium]

I can't remember honestly, and it depends on how you flip your cab anyway. Use your ears, it's pretty evident when the tweeter is off.

 

[Tankdave]

All these tweeter questions...is all the way off with the knob cranked fully clockwise or counterclockwise?

It works like a water-tap, screw it in and it stops, undo it like a tap and the tweet flows, more undo, more tweet

 

[mmbongo]

Correct me if I'm wrong here about the Tweeters on these cabs....but there is no on/off control for them. The knob only adjusts the crossover frequency, not the level. Again..I could be wrong.

 

[Master Chief]

Correct me if I'm wrong here about the Tweeters on these cabs....but there is no on/off control for them. The knob only adjusts the crossover frequency, not the level. Again..I could be wrong.

From the manual:

Moving the "HF CONTROL" knob adjusts the level of the tweeter, making the cab sound more or less bright.

 

[mmbongo]

From the manual:

Moving the "HF CONTROL" knob adjusts the level of the tweeter, making the cab sound more or less bright.

This part of the manual explains it a little better how it's a crossover control and not a level control:

 

[DaveAceofBass]

This part of the manual explains it a little better how it's a crossover control and not a level control:

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This doesn't clarify that he direction you move the knob. Clockwise or counterclockwise would be easier to understand

 

[FunkHead]

This doesn't clarify that he direction you move the knob. Clockwise or counterclockwise would be easier to understand

see post #9154

 

[Master Chief]

This part of the manual explains it a little better how it's a crossover control and not a level control:

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Well if you move the crossover frequency high enough, you're essentially turning the tweeter off...