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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

#12,261
Keithunem said:
Thanks for your report. I love hearing words like "magical," and someone else described this combo as "glorious!" I know words and opinions are subjective but when you say this combo is "fairly clean at low volume," are you saying that it sounds dirty as soon as you start to enter medium volume on up? And if so, would it be the speakers starting to break up, or the amp getting distorted. I don't mean to put you on the spot, just wondering if you can clarify your thoughts. Thanks again!
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Really for me it was a combo. If i got loud with the tube amp, it was more the amp getting dirty. I also had a quilter BB800 which nailed the 'Clean" tube tone and could get very loud. If I just used the Quilter and only used the 210 in a full band setting the speakers would ad some grit at those levels. So, if you want clean with a classic sound and good punch go with the larger cabs. YMMV
 
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#12,262
DavidJamesNHBass said:
Picked up the last one from the gents at Gollihur, then EA closed their doors shortly after. A huge loss to our craft.
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I love the Euphonic Audio micro550, it sounds musical through a Barefaced SC. I have no intention of selling it. With EA shuttered I've been thinking about picking up another top and the Acoustic Image Clarus SL is looking pretty attractive at this point.
 
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#12,264
J.Wolf said:
curious if BB2/BB3 owners find my review to be on par with their experiences. Barefaced Audio Big Baby 3 ReviewBass Musician Magazinehttps://bassmusicianmagazine.com › ... › Gear Reviews
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Fantastic review. That really captures my experience with the BB3 as well. Love the "gank factor"describing typical xover/tweeters on other bass cabs. The bb3 sounds so good to me, I leave the horn wide open and run it frfr. Sounds fantastic. No more "gank", just pleasing musical tone.
 
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#12,265
DavidJamesNHBass said:
I could get away with one BB3 for some shows but the second cab stacked allows me to avoid using a wedge or IEMs as a monitor (when you go fretless, you gotta hear yourself).
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J.Wolf said:
curious if BB2/BB3 owners find my review to be on par with their experiences. Barefaced Audio Big Baby 3 ReviewBass Musician Magazinehttps://bassmusicianmagazine.com › ... › Gear Reviews
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"Yeah, that good!" is my standard quote.
It's the cab feel and sound for why you decided to play the instrument in the first place.
 
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#12,266
5StringPocket said:
From what I've read, the 10" driver impedance is around 6 ohms. This would give a 4 ohm 610 or a 12 ohm 210 in series. The switchable 210 says 4 or 12 but is probably closer to 3+ or 12. A 3+ ohm nominal impedance can still work with most amps 4 ohm setting. A 12 ohm 210 in parallel with a 6 ohm 410 gives a 4 ohm 610. The math works. No way could two speakers be 4 ohms in parallel and 12 ohms in series unless there are load resistors added in parallel to give 4 ohms. Since the impedance curve varies with frequency, nominal values are given which should fall within acceptable amp load tolerances. It's not an exact number. Barefaced cabs are excellent but impedance and SPL numbers on the website are all over the map. There are only two LF drivers in use here, the 10CR and 12XN. Given the driver nominal impedance and sensitivity, the impedance and max SPL of any configuration should be pretty straight forward. Customers shouldn't have to wonder what's accurate and what isn't.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the 10CR is around 6 ohms, that would mean the 210s would be "as you say" around 3+ ohms. I'm concerned about hooking up two 210's together with switch on 4 ohms…wouldn't that theoretically put the load UNDER 2 ohms? If so, would that not be potentially unsafe for a solid state amp rated at a 2 ohm minimum? I've never owned Barefaced, but want two or three 210's. I don't doubt Alex's math or engineering expertise and am willing to jump in with both feet, but I haven't been able to find a viable solution. If the 10CR is actually rated at 4 ohms or more, of course this point is completely moot. In any case, I'm excited to play these 210 cabs, especially with my all tube amp, but want to be able to use a couple of my solid states also.
 
#12,268
Keithunem said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the 10CR is around 6 ohms, that would mean the 210s would be "as you say" around 3+ ohms. I'm concerned about hooking up two 210's together with switch on 4 ohms…wouldn't that theoretically put the load UNDER 2 ohms? If so, would that not be potentially unsafe for a solid state amp rated at a 2 ohm minimum? I've never owned Barefaced, but want two or three 210's. I don't doubt Alex's math or engineering expertise and am willing to jump in with both feet, but I haven't been able to find a viable solution. If the 10CR is actually rated at 4 ohms or more, of course this point is completely moot. In any case, I'm excited to play these 210 cabs, especially with my all tube amp, but want to be able to use a couple of my solid states also.
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I'd switch the 210's to 12 ohms if running multiples, especially if running three of them. You might be ok running two of them together on the 4 ohm setting with your amp set for a 2 ohm load. There are are others on this forum who run a pair of 210's that could speak to this. I've thought a 210 set to 4 ohms with a 110T on top would be a nice rig.
 
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#12,269
J.Wolf said:
curious if BB2/BB3 owners find my review to be on par with their experiences. Barefaced Audio Big Baby 3 ReviewBass Musician Magazinehttps://bassmusicianmagazine.com › ... › Gear Reviews
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I have had a BB2 since 2018, your review is spot on. Such a great cabinet, what a fat warm bottom end it is capable of without burying the other frequencies! One of the best changes made to the BB3 is the new dimensions. My SuperTwin is actually easier to move than my BB2 despite being larger and almost 10 lbs heavier. Reducing the back-to-front dimension was an excellent idea and must make for an easier carry, the new air cooling system a creative touch. During the pandemic I had all my different preamps and basses out in my office and spent time mixing and matching, all listened to through the BB2. It was the first time I was able to distinctly hear every preamp and bass for what it is without a bass cabinet coloring the sound. I mainly play Alembic basses or use their pickups/electronics in others and the BB2 is the first cabinet where every tiny incremental change to the Alembic low-pass filter is clearly audible despite my "rock and roll" hearing loss. I can see some players not wanting anything quite so clean and revealing but of course that is the type of player that would probably love the Barefaced line of 10" speakers.
 
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Been thinking about One10+Two10. It scales nicely w/ 1, 2, or 3 drivers, but Im curious about doing this with Two10 switched to 12Ω. Vs the One10, the Two gains 3db with 2x speaker area, but then does the 12Ω setting Vs the 8Ω bring it back to 0db output Vs One10?

would the equalized output be close enough to use say in a stereo config?
 
#12,271
MarshallAC50Stack said:
I love the Euphonic Audio micro550, it sounds musical through a Barefaced SC. I have no intention of selling it. With EA shuttered I've been thinking about picking up another top and the Acoustic Image Clarus SL is looking pretty attractive at this point.
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Thank you for this. I have somehow overlooked Acoustic Image. I am now aware that the brand has been mentioned several times even in this tread.
If it is as good as this review suggests: Acoustic Image Clarus SL | Bass Gear Magazine The Clarus SL should be a perfect match for an SM T (or two), as they are both (from the review) tiny and unassuming but sonically excellent and with considerable power.
 
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coyoteboy said:
Been thinking about One10+Two10. It scales nicely w/ 1, 2, or 3 drivers, but Im curious about doing this with Two10 switched to 12Ω. Vs the One10, the Two gains 3db with 2x speaker area, but then does the 12Ω setting Vs the 8Ω bring it back to 0db output Vs One10?

would the equalized output be close enough to use say in a stereo config?
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For all 10s to get equal power you would need to set the Two10 to 4ohm, each speaker would have 8ohm resistance.

If you want a stereo config I would recommend getting another Two10.
 
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#12,275
aglide said:
Would it be a problem to stack two of the 2-10 cabinets vertically? I seem to recall there's something different between the two speakers in each cabinet that makes it better to have them horizontal. Is that right?
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For guitar speakers, it might make a difference because of the AVD on the back of guitar cabs. For bass cabs, I don't think it matters. They have rubber feet on the ends, so they're definitely designed so they can be placed vertically. I don't know of any reason why you couldn't stack them vertically.
 

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