Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

[BlackCrow]

Apologies if this question has been asked and answered previously, but im still saving up for a 210st 8ohm so budgeting is a concern. How much did Import Duties, VAT tax, etc add to the base price of any cab that anyone has ordered?..I find conflicting information on the interweb since Brexit..

 

[mikeynets]

I got a 0ne10 end of last year and while I got notices from the carrier that I would have to pay import fees, I was never invoiced. So my total price was just what I paid bareface.

 

[mikeynets]

However, just to be safe, you should budget to pay the import duty and there's a schedule for estimating rates which IIRC is based on # of drivers in an enclosure. That seems so arbitrary, but that was how I read it. I think barefaced has a link to that on their site somewhere.

 

[BlueTalon]

Apologies if this question has been asked and answered previously, but im still saving up for a 210st 8ohm so budgeting is a concern. How much did Import Duties, VAT tax, etc add to the base price of any cab that anyone has ordered?..I find conflicting information on the interweb since Brexit..

I got a 0ne10 end of last year and while I got notices from the carrier that I would have to pay import fees, I was never invoiced. So my total price was just what I paid bareface.

That was my experience too. No additional fees. I suspect they might be a bit more persnickety in Europe about collecting duty fees from British manufacturers than they are in the U.S. (depending on how much the item is worth, of course, but the price of a speaker cab doesn't seem to move the needle).

 

[gtirard]

That was my experience too. No additional fees. I suspect they might be a bit more persnickety in Europe about collecting duty fees from British manufacturers than they are in the U.S. (depending on how much the item is worth, of course, but the price of a speaker cab doesn't seem to move the needle).

You're lucky, in France we have to pay a 20% tax before delivery. I wonder if it's the same in all mainland Europe?

 

[Bassdrifter]

You're lucky, in France we have to pay a 20% tax before delivery. I wonder if it's the same in all mainland Europe?

25% in Norway. And a some 20€ fee for colecting the tax. No import duty.

 

[R Flynn]

I recall something on the Barefaced site about how the charged VAT (sales rax in the UK) but cabs are zero rated in some other countries.

 

[R Flynn]

Import duties

3. Import duty is v low in many countries.

Our cabs and pedals are wholly made in the UK, so if you're in the EU, there is no import duty (due to the post-Brexit trade agreement implemented in 2021) and the VAT is around 20% (it varies by country). For more EU info, scroll to the bottom!

The import duty charged on loudspeaker cabinets and effects pedals from the UK is quite small, just a few percent in the countries that we mostly sell to (USA, Canada, EU, Australia, NZ, Japan). The other charge that is likely is the sales tax or value added tax (VAT) that is applicable to the country that you live in.

If you're in the USA the total import duty and sales tax is usually only around 5% (no guarantees but that's what we've seen over the last decade).

In Canada it's about 20%.

I can't remember any others of the top of my head but do please let us know what it cost where you live and we'll add more info to this page.

 

[Stingray5]

FWIW I'm in the US (NY) and the price I paid at checkout was it. I was not asked for any additional $$$ for import fees, tax etc. and my BF cab was delivered without issue.

 

[gstaats]

I got my 2x BB3's in August of 21. No taxes ot duties paid. w00t w00t!

 

[saltydude]

Hey folks.
Can we get a rundown of the professional musicians that use BF cabs?
I'm certainly not one but have a BB2 , Super midget and 6X10
Thanks in advance.

 

[rapidfirerob]

Hey folks.
Can we get a rundown of the professional musicians that use BF cabs?
I'm certainly not one but have a BB2 , Super midget and 6X10
Thanks in advance.

I'll let Barefaced get you started: Players

 

[Zbysek]

You're lucky, in France we have to pay a 20% tax before delivery. I wonder if it's the same in all mainland Europe?

Yes. 21per cent VAT in the Czech Republic...

 

[BassGreaser]

Does anyone know if 100watts from an Ampeg B100R would be enough power for the BF 310 for gigging?

 

[alexclaber]

You're lucky, in France we have to pay a 20% tax before delivery. I wonder if it's the same in all mainland Europe?

VAT is about 20% through the EU. I suspect there are similar taxes in the other non-EU countries. The USA has a very different financial model to European countries with higher average wages, lower consumer tax (both income and sales) but higher corporation tax, and smaller state spending per head on healthcare and other social benefits. It's also one of only two countries in the world which taxes its citizens' income regardless of where they live in the world.

 

[alexclaber]

Does anyone know if 100watts from an Ampeg B100R would be enough power for the BF 310 for gigging?

As always, it depends on how loud your band is, where you sit in the mix, what tone you're after, etc. Email for detailed analysis!

 

[FergyPlaysBass]

NZ buyers are required to pay 15% GST if the item and delivery costs more than NZ$1000. There is often a small import fee as well. One thing to watch out for though (it happened to me both times) is how they calculate your GST. They look at what we pay Alex, assuming that is the value of the item alone, and they look at the actual delivery cost, which is usually in the import documentation somewhere. They add those two values and then calculate the GST. In other words, overcharging by 15% of the shipping cost. It usually requires several cycles of email and patience to get it sorted.

 

[Waltsdog]

Question for the club, I'm looking to change up my cabs a bit and maybe need a reality check. Currently have a Two10 (with the old steel grill) and I'm thinking about adding a One10 to get a bit more height and volume occasionally. Not sure if this is a good approach or not and the mismatching grill might niggle.
The far less sensible option is to blow it all up and start over with a Three10 and One10 matching pair for.... well lots of $$
Which would you choose?

 

[bass08053]

Question for the club, I'm looking to change up my cabs a bit and maybe need a reality check. Currently have a Two10 (with the old steel grill) and I'm thinking about adding a One10 to get a bit more height and volume occasionally. Not sure if this is a good approach or not and the mismatching grill might niggle.
The far less sensible option is to blow it all up and start over with a Three10 and One10 matching pair for.... well lots of $$
Which would you choose?

I think as long long as you have enough power and things work out ohm wise, it's a good idea. I've been debating this myself. I have a SuperTwin but I want 10's as well. So it's either the modular route you suggested or the three10. I truly believe there is no wrong answer.

 

[5StringPocket]

Question for the club, I'm looking to change up my cabs a bit and maybe need a reality check. Currently have a Two10 (with the old steel grill) and I'm thinking about adding a One10 to get a bit more height and volume occasionally. Not sure if this is a good approach or not and the mismatching grill might niggle.
The far less sensible option is to blow it all up and start over with a Three10 and One10 matching pair for.... well lots of $$
Which would you choose?

If you just need a bit more height and volume occasionally, adding a One10 would probably get that for you and provide a modular rig at minimum additional cost. A Three10 by itself might hit the sweet spot if you didn't mind moving one larger cabinet. I don't think I'd mix the Three10 and One10 because their drivers have different impedance which wouldn't make for optimum power distribution (the One10 would receive too much power).