Official Eventide (H9/Factor Series) Settings Thread!!!

[Adamixoye]

Okay @Jon Moody embargo over!

Please comment on Polyphony! I want to know if this can replace my Digitech Drop + do more.

 

[Jon Moody]

Okay @Jon Moody embargo over!

Please comment on Polyphony! I want to know if this can replace my Digitech Drop + do more.

And this is where I say "I haven't tried it yet."



Give me a couple days (currently in tech week for a theatre gig...on guitar), and I'll look into this. But given how many things I've already gotten rid of BECAUSE OF the H90, my guess is that yes, it'll replace the Drop.

 

[Jon Moody]

So in full disclosure, I haven't spent a ton of time on the algorithms themselves. I've been running a two H9 setup for a while now, played with a number of the dot9 pedals, have some of my presets as stock options on the algos (Paschorius? Yeah, that was me), so I'm familiar. That's not what is truly mind blowing about the H90.

It's the routing options, the stupidly easy UI on the unit, the desktop app, etc.. that all make this so much more than just slamming two H9s together. It's the reason I went from a full Pedaltrain Novo 16 down to a Metro 16 (still kept the Rose Delay on it, because why not).

 

[Geddy Claypool]

I had honestly hoped it would be bigger, so I could avoid the temptation as I run a Pedaltrain Nano+ as my full-time board. But the fact that I can lose my OX9 actually means that it would fit even better on my Nano+ than my H9 Max...

The only downside is that I'd have to kick off my Turbo Tuner to make it work, but I've never quite gotten on with the H9's tuner nearly as much as the incredible Turbo Tuner.

And onboard editing looks pretty good, but I'll still be excited to see the bluetooth capability rolled out. I always loved that editing system.

 

[Les Fret]

Given that sites already leaked it early, I'm assuming so.

I've had one for about two weeks now, and have had a chance to gig with it. I should have a review in Bass Musician Mag by the end of the week or so.

Ok great. Let us know how the polyphonic schifting is compared to the H9 if you will. And also how the new algos are.

I think the price is pretty hefty for only two algos at the same time. You can get a good all in one multi fx including amp modeling for that price. Love my H9 though so I am still curious.

 

[Jon Moody]

Ok great. Let us know how the polyphonic schifting is compared to the H9 if you will. And also how the new algos are.

Will do. I've been using the Weedwhacker algo a lot on guitar right now, and have been enjoying it. It's very touch-responsive.

I think the price is pretty hefty for only two algos at the same time. You can get a good all in one multi fx including amp modeling for that price. Love my H9 though so I am still curious.

I dunno, two H9 MAX cost around $1200 at this time, so you're already $300 ahead. It also replaced a handful of pedals on my board due to the routing options not available on other units. I don't need a MIDI controller, because this will handle nearly everything I throw at it.

It's a hot take, but I think amp modeling is overrated. Once you're digital, it's 0s and 1s, which is easy to manipulate and find sounds very close to it without the title.

 

[Les Fret]

It's a hot take, but I think amp modeling is overrated. Once you're digital, it's 0s and 1s, which is easy to manipulate and find sounds very close to it without the title.

But if you want to play direct to the board for recording or live you need some cab modeling when you use overdrive, especially for guitar. Distortion /overdrive sounds don’t sound going direct. Adding cab modeling to the H90 would make it much more flexible. Then you could even use the H90 as an all in one solution for direct playing on gigs if you don’t use many effects at the same time.

 

[LSMFT6]

Here’s a photo comparison. It’s not that much wider. The other measurements are the same.
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That’s actually smaller than I was imagining, especially considering that it might replace an H9 and Bass Whammy if the routing options are as easy as you say

 

[GMC]

But if you want to play direct to the board for recording or live you need some cab modeling when you use overdrive, especially for guitar. Distortion /overdrive sounds don’t sound going direct. Adding cab modeling to the H90 would make it much more flexible. Then you could even use the H90 as an all in one solution for direct playing on gigs if you don’t use many effects at the same time.

You are respectfully welcome to your opinion, but for me I'm really happy there aren't any IR's or Cab modelling in any Eventide products. They aren't that type of pedal.
I have three brands on my board: Source Audio, Eventdie and EHX. I don't own a single pedal that loads IR's or cab sims. I actually avoid them. It seems to be a requirement created Strymon and Line6 for electric guitarists who use various amps to tailor their tone.

 

[Jon Moody]

But if you want to play direct to the board for recording or live you need some cab modeling when you use overdrive, especially for guitar. Distortion /overdrive sounds don’t sound going direct. Adding cab modeling to the H90 would make it much more flexible. Then you could even use the H90 as an all in one solution for direct playing on gigs if you don’t use many effects at the same time.

Nope, you do not. We're not using amp modeling for the two guitars running direct for the current musical I'm in. The FOH guy ran some reverb on the channels, and it sounds amazing in the house.

I've been running a Neve RNDI as my ampless rig for years, with two H9s running different distortions. Never had an issue about it sounding bad.

The other thing to consider is that Eventide is not known for amp modeling or IRs, nor have they claimed to be. It offers two mono inserts, so you can grab an IR pedal of choice and insert it into the signal chain wherever you want, if you have to have it.

 

[bass.slinger]

Looks nice - would have preferred the midi jacks on the back instead of the side.

 

[Jon Moody]

Looks nice - would have preferred the midi jacks on the back instead of the side.

That was not a surprise at all, given the layout of the H9.

I wish the low profile RockCable MIDI cables would be rereleased as they were PERFECT. I had two H9s side by side with maybe a 1/2" between them with those cables.

 

[GMC]

It's a thing of beauty for sure. It'#s a nice size too. It would literally replace 2 existing pedals with one that's a few inches wider. I love the new routing options, series or parallel processing. I think it can do send and returns too...simulating a pair of H9's in a chain.
From a fiscal perspective, it's currently floating around the £1060 price point, which is a LOT more than the $899 US price point. I think it's an easier question in the USA, the unit is cheaper and the S/H value is £/$ too.
I can sell my mint and boxed H9 Core & H9 Max units for aroung £800 over all. So the question is...is there enough of an upgrade to warrent the extra £260 spend? I'll have the hassle of selling them privately and not having them on my board until I have the funds (and availability) to get a H90.
In the means time..while I ponder these things...I still have my H9's to play with

 

[Jon Moody]

From a fiscal perspective, it's currently floating around the £1060 price point, which is a LOT more than the $899 US price point.

Yeah, you can thank the strong dollar for that. It's wrecking a bunch of havoc overseas.

I can sell my mint and boxed H9 Core & H9 Max units for aroung £800 over all. So the question is...is there enough of an upgrade to warrent the extra £260 spend?

That's really a question only you can answer. If you're like me, the features that are built into this unit allowed my board to be cut in half and not have to tapdance as much to get the sounds I wanted. That was a huge value to me. Adding in the series/parallel routing with the two insert options has been a game changer for me.

But for some, it may not be. And that's okay too.

 

[Derek Williams]

It's a thing of beauty for sure. It'#s a nice size too. It would literally replace 2 existing pedals with one that's a few inches wider. I love the new routing options, series or parallel processing. I think it can do send and returns too...simulating a pair of H9's in a chain.
From a fiscal perspective, it's currently floating around the £1060 price point, which is a LOT more than the $899 US price point. I think it's an easier question in the USA, the unit is cheaper and the S/H value is £/$ too.
I can sell my mint and boxed H9 Core & H9 Max units for aroung £800 over all. So the question is...is there enough of an upgrade to warrent the extra £260 spend? I'll have the hassle of selling them privately and not having them on my board until I have the funds (and availability) to get a H90.
In the means time..while I ponder these things...I still have my H9's to play with

I'm considering picking one up when I'm in Canada this Christmas, Long & McQuade has them for about $1250, which is about £800 right now. Or to rephrase that, I'm trying to talk myself out of buying one when I go to Canada

 

[Adamixoye]

If the Polyphony algo is as good as I hope, then that plus the size alone is worth a nice chunk of change over my current Max/Core combo. That's before you get to all the other features.

 

[JES]

Colour me also cautiously interested. But I want to know: I've been building presets and sounds for my H9s for years. How easy is it to port them over to the H90? It says the algos are "tweaked" -- does that mean I won't have the same sounds with the same settings? That said, I could see this replacing two H9s and a POG, which would free up some board space and simplify things.

 

[Jon Moody]

Colour me also cautiously interested. But I want to know: I've been building presets and sounds for my H9s for years. How easy is it to port them over to the H90? It says the algos are "tweaked" -- does that mean I won't have the same sounds with the same settings? That said, I could see this replacing two H9s and a POG, which would free up some board space and simplify things.

I haven't tried it yet, but Eventide said it is able to import H9 presets into the H90.

In terms of tweaked algos, it's usually been to add some more functionality to them, much like how the dot9 pedals were updated.

 

[Adamixoye]

I haven't tried it yet, but Eventide said it is able to import H9 presets into the H90.

In terms of tweaked algos, it's usually been to add some more functionality to them, much like how the dot9 pedals were updated.

I thought they also said they applied some of the improvements in the coding --- like, certain algos won't be polyphonic but there are improvements to the tracking, etc.

 

[JES]

This is why I'll wait and see how it is for others.