I own the American and the California, but honestly haven't played with either much in a mix. How else would that "darker" character be described? Is it a cut in mids? It really seems to drop off a lot of something in the comparison video.
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Official Joyo Club Part 2: Beyond Thunderclone
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I own the American and the California, but honestly haven't played with either much in a mix. How else would that "darker" character be described? Is it a cut in mids? It really seems to drop off a lot of something in the comparison video.
I purchased the American Sound and California Sound looking for a good OD and preamp for guitar and bass. I kept the California as it was more to my liking. I think of it as a punchier sound that might also be described as darker. I can get a nice singing tone on guitar or Tweety (piccolo) bass and can go all the way to very saturated plus I can get very close to my favorite bass amp of all time the Mesa Bass 400. The American went to a good home in trade for another pedal.
I’ve owned both the American and the California as well. I’m pretty sure the mids in American are voiced at 1khz while the California are voiced at 500hz and in the video he has the mids cut so this would definitely add to the darker sound of the California. I kept the American and ended up trading the California due to it being a little muddy for my tastes but both are fantastic pedals especially when considering the price! The voice knobs are the biggest key with both pedals in my estimation.
Anybody have issues with the buffer on the UD? My UD is very quiet when used with my SmartGate. When the gate is on, plenty of volume. When it’s off, much reduced volume. If I engage the buffer on my new DOD BiFET Boost, it works at all times. The gate works with all other pedals, and other gates work with the UD. Seems like the UD’s buffer is wonky. What do you guys think? Make it true bypass? And how to do that? I have basic soldering skills, but nothing fancy.
I was looking at Joyo Ultimate Drive, American and British. I looked a lot of youtube videos, but i'm still not sure that what i'm looking for is there.
Is there a Joyo stomp that sounds similar to the Heavy setting of SourceAudio Aftershock?
A sample is on this Youtube video by Adam Arts, at 1:07.
Thank you!
P.S.: Joyo UD sounds anything like this? Because i wouldn't like it (while i like Fulltone OCD on bass on youtube clips)
Is there a Joyo stomp that sounds similar to the Heavy setting of SourceAudio Aftershock?
A sample is on this Youtube video by Adam Arts, at 1:07.
Thank you!
P.S.: Joyo UD sounds anything like this? Because i wouldn't like it (while i like Fulltone OCD on bass on youtube clips)
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If they're still taking numbers, I'd like one. Just got my Joyo JF-37 chorus yesterday. I wrote about it in the old thread before discovering this Part 2 thread.
Anyhow, really like it, am glad for the knobs that I can easily feel the position. The sounds it produces are exactly what I want. I find it produces good chorus even on my low B string, something my last pedal didn't do.
I'm also partial to true bypass, not to start that debate all over again but still ... Anyhow, it produces that 80s lush chorus sound as well as that Soundgarden / Nirvana type chorus. I have it in front of my Old Blood Noise Procession Reverb which has a tremolo I really like. The two effects together produce a nice sound.
I'm auditioning this Saturday, but won't be trying it there. They're already new to a 5 string player, so I'm just leaving the pedal board at home.
I'm completely blind and so I appreciate pedals with pronounced knobs and a foot switch I can easily find with my foot.
Anyhow, really like it, am glad for the knobs that I can easily feel the position. The sounds it produces are exactly what I want. I find it produces good chorus even on my low B string, something my last pedal didn't do.
I'm also partial to true bypass, not to start that debate all over again but still ... Anyhow, it produces that 80s lush chorus sound as well as that Soundgarden / Nirvana type chorus. I have it in front of my Old Blood Noise Procession Reverb which has a tremolo I really like. The two effects together produce a nice sound.
I'm auditioning this Saturday, but won't be trying it there. They're already new to a 5 string player, so I'm just leaving the pedal board at home.
I'm completely blind and so I appreciate pedals with pronounced knobs and a foot switch I can easily find with my foot.
Have you ever tried any of the electroharmonix or boss chorus pedals eg. Small clone? If so how does the joyo compare?
How do you guys manage sticking Joyo pedals to your pedal board with that big chunk of rubber on the backs? I tried flipping the back panel over, but then the 9v battery door falls inside the pedal, and velcro glue won't stick to the rubber.
I pull the rubber pad off the bottom of the pedal and stick the velcro to that.
I have not. The only other chorus pedal I have is the DanElectro FAB5 I think it is. Anyhow, it introduces noise into the signal chain that I don't like. It would be nice to have a mix knob, but I'm good. Simple is good with these things.
Also, I recently got their Phaser pedal for some New Wave work, and I find it mixes nicely with the chorus, or is good by itself.
I don't have a ton of pedals, only one of the more expensive ones -- the Procession Reverb pedal by Old Blood Noise Endeavors, it's got some effects that I like but I actually might switch out to the Joyo version at some point. I'm not buying any more gear at the moment though.
Just bought the Dyna compressor, looking forward to it getting here. I see that I do need it on some of the New Wave stuff I'm doing. Also, my boutique pedal is the one that's given me the most grief, plus it's not true bypass. Glad to take that one off the board, even if it is fun to goof around with while stoned at home, not really the most gig-worthy pedal IMHO. The Joyos, on the other hand, never give me the slightest trouble.
Oh and the phaser really does give that INXS swirly "toilet bowl" bass sound -- think their song "Don't Change".
Oh and the phaser really does give that INXS swirly "toilet bowl" bass sound -- think their song "Don't Change".
Recorded the bass on this track for my band using my American sound into the Joyo Digi delay (v slight delay) straight into my Zoom R8. Recorded with Fender P with half dead Roto 66's (could do with changing). Am really liking this pedal. Sounds even better live...growliest tone i've got yet
Recorded the bass on this track for my band using my American sound into the Joyo Digi delay (v slight delay) straight into my Zoom R8. Recorded with Fender P with half dead Roto 66's (could do with changing). Am really liking this pedal. Sounds even better live...growliest tone i've got yet
Dance dance dance to the radio!
I bought a JF-322 Wow-Wah a few weeks ago and was reasonably impressed.
It's no Wonderlove, but considering price and size, it's a keeper.
After tweaking around a bit, I've arrived at these settings for guitar (single-coil passive) and bass (active).
Reducing the bias lowers the filter pitch, but also weakens the effect so there's a limit how low you can drive the filters.
Although it's primarily aimed at guitar, it retains the bass pretty well.
It does seem that most of the filtering is in the mids and treble, but
it sounds good with bass as long as there's enough higher harmonic content.
(Bridge pickups, dirt etc.)
It's no Wonderlove, but considering price and size, it's a keeper.
After tweaking around a bit, I've arrived at these settings for guitar (single-coil passive) and bass (active).
Reducing the bias lowers the filter pitch, but also weakens the effect so there's a limit how low you can drive the filters.
Although it's primarily aimed at guitar, it retains the bass pretty well.
It does seem that most of the filtering is in the mids and treble, but
it sounds good with bass as long as there's enough higher harmonic content.
(Bridge pickups, dirt etc.)
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Then the next week I snagged this 4-pack of used Joyo Ironman pedals.
JF-330 Ocho
JF-327 Raptor Flanger
JF-316 Future Chorus
JF-313 Old School Distortion
I was already primed to buy the Ocho after learning it was an OC-2 clone.
I've been playing it up against my MIJ OC-2 and they sound pretty close.
If anything the OC-2 is a shade cleaner and sweeter, but it's a subtle difference.
Add some dirt and they sound the same to me.
Tracking performance is virtually identical.
The flanger and chorus both seem somewhat generic but acceptable.
Both have adequate bass retention.
I expect the Raptor Flanger is the same as their Classic Flanger, but I haven't tried the classic.
They have the same four knobs : rate width regen and delay.
It's possible they've compromised some of the bigger capacitor values.
The Future Chorus is at least superficially different from the other two Joyo chori.
This one has a "level" knob, which is actually a mix control (clean vs modulated).
Finally, there's the Old School Distortion, which is clearly voiced for guitar and cuts most of the bass range.
Even turning the bass knob up to max just manages to restore the low-end for guitar.
My first (probably unfair) impression was of a cab-sim for a Fender Champ.
It does seem to focus most on the high mids.
This demo's pretty representative of its sonic range.
JF-330 Ocho
JF-327 Raptor Flanger
JF-316 Future Chorus
JF-313 Old School Distortion
I was already primed to buy the Ocho after learning it was an OC-2 clone.
I've been playing it up against my MIJ OC-2 and they sound pretty close.
If anything the OC-2 is a shade cleaner and sweeter, but it's a subtle difference.
Add some dirt and they sound the same to me.
Tracking performance is virtually identical.
The flanger and chorus both seem somewhat generic but acceptable.
Both have adequate bass retention.
I expect the Raptor Flanger is the same as their Classic Flanger, but I haven't tried the classic.
They have the same four knobs : rate width regen and delay.
It's possible they've compromised some of the bigger capacitor values.
The Future Chorus is at least superficially different from the other two Joyo chori.
This one has a "level" knob, which is actually a mix control (clean vs modulated).
Finally, there's the Old School Distortion, which is clearly voiced for guitar and cuts most of the bass range.
Even turning the bass knob up to max just manages to restore the low-end for guitar.
My first (probably unfair) impression was of a cab-sim for a Fender Champ.
It does seem to focus most on the high mids.
This demo's pretty representative of its sonic range.
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