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Official Markbass Club
- Thread starter JimmyM
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Yeah, but how hard do you really want to work to cram that square peg in that round hole (so to speak)? Now you're adding more coloration, too... probably wouldn't sound much like an LMII anymore. Not only that but adding gain stages that way is probably also the noisiest hissiest way to go.
Bottom line is, the LMII is simply not well suited for this task. Trust me.
It wasn't designed to do it, and it doesn't.
Yeah, you're probably right. I honestly dont need more power from my LMII anyway. Its plenty loud enough.
Just curious.
I'm running a LMII through a 104HF cabinet.
Would it be stupid to upgrade the cabinet? I love my rig, but I don't see anyone using my cab. Any tips/ideas?
I'm running a LMII through a 104HF cabinet.
Would it be stupid to upgrade the cabinet? I love my rig, but I don't see anyone using my cab. Any tips/ideas?
I don't see anyone using my rig, either. But then again, how many are there around? As they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
No prob. Just as a side note, I had two reasons for trying to make this work somehow... one was for those few occasions I need a bit more juice, but actually more typically, simply because I need to go below 4 ohms fairly frequently, but I still wanted the Markbass sound. I almost went for an SA450 from Canada just to get the adjustable DI, but then just decided the heck with it. I'll use the LMII when I can, and something else when I can't.
I am here !!!
I have been using the LMK11 along with the 104 HF cabinet for the past two years and am very pleased with it !!!
I added a 102HF cabinet as well and it is also a superb cabinet with lots of low end too.
Email me if you have other questions !
What about running the effects send into another head, then using that head to drive its own set of cabinet(s)? Obviously you would have two heads competing for tone signature (unless they were both LMIIs, hmm...).No prob. Just as a side note, I had two reasons for trying to make this work somehow... one was for those few occasions I need a bit more juice, but actually more typically, simply because I need to go below 4 ohms fairly frequently, but I still wanted the Markbass sound. I almost went for an SA450 from Canada just to get the adjustable DI, but then just decided the heck with it. I'll use the LMII when I can, and something else when I can't.
Nothing wrong with two heads competing for a "tone signature." I would use the tuner out, but you could do that a lot easier than direct into a power amp.
That would work, and the effects send is "dry" and it is hot enough, but I personally wouldn't want that kind of tonal inconsistency, and now you have 4 gain stages to worry about instead of just 2, and (if it matters) then you can't use the efx loop on the MB of course. However, you'd probably have to use any efx before the amp "jungle" on that one anyway so they'd effect both amps.
For me, tho amp chaining like that's just too much hassle. I'll just grab the more powerful head and be done with it. The LMII is simply not the right tool for the job if you need more power than it can deliver.
Also, it's not like I love the LMII and hate everything else I own, and depending on the venue, and even my mood or the bass I'll be playing, sometimes I prefer the other heads anyway.
In a nutshell...
- The DI output can (and by default does) have the Markbass sound, but is just not hot enough to use for anything but feed a board.
- The efx send is hot enough to do more with, but does not have the Markbass sound.
- There is no way around #1 and #2
Either that, or if it's really that infrequently, maybe see if you can just have a little bass added to your monitors... on gigs that big, that's usually an option... usually bigger and better sounding monitors, and also bigger boards with more monitor sends. You may also be surprised at how little you need to add with the spacial distribution you get that way as well.
Another possibility, is if you're considering IEM's, that would also solve it, though I wouldn't suggest IEM's solely to solve this problem. Just a possible side-benefit if you were already planning on them.
Some thoughts anyway.
I'd like to report that using the LMII with a Yamaha subkick plugged into the Mic input and an active bass plugged into the instrument input yields some wonderful results for the 100 seat clubs. I was able to have the kick drum and bass be felt in the audience using relatively cheap gear, such as a Peavey PV118 ($250ish) and a simple 210 speaker cab. And I do mean convincing, you would have though that there was a subwoofer at work but it was nothing more than my tiny LMII pumping both bass and kick drum through a mild speaker setup.
Have not tried my UL410 with this yet though. The 18" sounds too good to mess with.
Have not tried my UL410 with this yet though. The 18" sounds too good to mess with.
Another great idea if he's already got one and/or doesn't mind moving a bigger cab around. Nothing beats more speakers when it comes to adding real usable volume! This is kinda' related to the stage monitor idea as well, since that's essentially doing the same thing.
what number am I?
how´s that setup working for you? I was thinking about getting a f1 (or f500 when if I can wait till they come out) for my 2 b1s...
I have a CMD 102P running a 104HF and the results are stunningly good. It's basically the same rig as the LMII, 102HF and 104HF, just with a combo on the 2x10. What a great rig! I'm as impressed by the cab as I ever was with just an LMII running another high-end cab, and I like my gear to match! The 104HF is an extremely well-designed cab with great speakers, weight, and an awesome look IMO. This rig could shake my house apart. Definately give that cab a good chance to prove itself before you go looking for something else.
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