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I'm with you... I'd love a Legacy Elite 519 myself. I got pretty excited that Modulus was now offering Quantums with 19mm spacing as well but then I remembered how much they are new and at this point I'd rather have a new Zon.
I'm with you... I'd love a Legacy Elite 519 myself. I got pretty excited that Modulus was now offering Quantums with 19mm spacing as well but then I remembered how much they are new and at this point I'd rather have a new Zon.
The best about this one is that it already exists! I've emailed the adress from the Harmony Central review, and I'm waiting for an answer. The Lane Poors on my Modulus sound absolutely amazing, and I can't imagine them sounding any worse on a Zon!
The review says something about adjustable spacing too, maybe he means that the spacing is wider? One can hope:
Review of mentioned bass
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BTW, I see you are a fellow "wickan". Are you registered at the Warwick Forum?
Interesting review, it sounds awesome. I think he's mistaken about it being neck-through though, I believe the Legacies are set neck. The "adjustable spacing" sounds promising though!
I'm not on the Warwick forum... not yet anyway! Are you referring to http://forum.warwick.de/?
Yeah, that's the forum I'm talking about. It's a great forum full of helpful people!
Anyway, I guess most "regular" people don't care to call the difference between set necks and neck throughs, I've made that slip a few times myself.
Anyway (2)...I'm on pins and needles for pics of this bass. If it has wider spacing than 17,5 mm or adjustable to a wider spacing it might just be my dream bass. It's not a necessity, but it sure is a plus. After playing a 5-string bass with 20 mm spacing everything else feels really tight.
You can actually order 35"/19mm now, especially if it's just a 5.
BTW, Lane Poors sound freaking awesome in Zons- my old, beaten up 4 string has them, and pretty soon they'll all have them.
BTW, Lane Poors sound freaking awesome in Zons- my old, beaten up 4 string has them, and pretty soon they'll all have them.
If so, i'm planning to get a 35" (or 36") Vinny 6 as a companion to
by the end of the year. Oh, fretless too.
How do you think a single Lane Poor MM would sound in a Legacy 5-string? I imagine a Stingray-like tone, but bigger and fatter due to the set neck construction.
I'm pretty sure you'll get a no-go on the 36", but you can always ask! Why go 36" though? I can understand it with wood necks, but man, I don't even understand going to 35" on these. I'm just thinking out loud, so don't mind me, but my 34" Zon has a way better B and definitely a more even tone than my 36" basses.
It's hard to say as there are so many factors involved. I'm having one made like that, though (but a Sonus), so I'll keep you posted. The difference in body woods, etc, makes it hard to predict. That navy blue one that was on ebay wasn't like a 5/1 with the single pickup in the MM position, though- IIRC it was in the center "sweetspot" position. That would sound totally different.
5/1's are my favorite though, so I think regardless it would be a great sounding setup.
Embellisher- hey dude!
I have a slew of Lane Poors now that I've accumulated over the years- probably 12-15 pickups? It's mostly wide 5 string and 6 string stuff at this point. All but one set are NOS, too, which was really lucky.My 4 string has soap/P/soap pickups in it that I purchased NOS at a little music store in Washington around 2003. That bass is a total mutt now, as it also has dual preamps that are switchable on the fly and a bunch of other weird, unnecessary stuff. But it sounds great! It's done a lot of sessions.
I recently compared Zon (Sonus), Spector (Europe) and Warwick (Streamer) in a GC. However they all sounded very very similar. Differences among them when played over a different rig were still not significant, except the rig sounded different for all three of them. Also the playability seems equal. Weight is a little bit different. So the question is: What should I concentrate on for a decision which one to take? Does somebody have some longterm experience that brought out some pros and cons???
The B string on my older Vinny 5 (34") is pretty impressive. I've also gotten the action really low without any buzz or choke. The 35" / 36" idea is pretty neat but it kinda negates the original design concept (full-size performance in a travel-friendly package). I'd like to see a Zon headless design with a full-size body, myself.
Gigged mine for the first time Saturday night. Unreal....after I realized I'd gotten the treble and bass controls backwards. D'oh!
Riis
I`ve extensively played those basses.
Although they`re different, I`ve found that weight and neck profile was the main difference. The Spector Euro was the heaviest and had a rounder neck profile. The Sonus (5/2 or Special) was the lightest and with a flat D neck profile.
I also found the Spector Tonepump preamp to be the least versatile of the 3.
Although they`re different, I`ve found that weight and neck profile was the main difference. The Spector Euro was the heaviest and had a rounder neck profile. The Sonus (5/2 or Special) was the lightest and with a flat D neck profile.
I also found the Spector Tonepump preamp to be the least versatile of the 3.
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I'm looking to get thinner strings yet with more tension, hence the longer scale. So far i've tried a few 35"s and while my Zon plays better i always felt that the tension was a little "low". Perhaps it's my heavy attack.
Interestingly that's exactly what i want, a Vinny scaled up to fit in a normal gigbag.
You can pretty much slip the Vinny in a tube sock....but not in my case. The previous owner went the whole route and bought the full-blown Calzone flite case (30-40 lbs?). In case of nuclear attack, I could climb in this thing and still have an open-casket funeral.
I'm reluctant to go any heavier than 40-125's as this Vinny has no truss rod. I'd like to use conventional 45-128's but I don't want to tempt fate.
Riis
So what exactly is the difference between the 5/1 and the sweetspot position, both in terms of how close the pickup is to the bridge/neck, and soundwise? Because I heard some clips and songs from a Sonus 5/1 myrtle, and I though it sounded more P-bass than Stingray...
I guess the mahogany body of the Legacy would make a big difference to the sound as well.
I guess the mahogany body of the Legacy would make a big difference to the sound as well.
If it existed, I would! There won't pictures of a finished instrument for a long time!
Why- is there too much relief now? I have .055-.115's on my 4 string and there is only a thousandth or two of relief (which is good- I need a dead, dead straight neck...hate relief) in it. It's my only bass with heavy strings, but if I swap to lighter ones the neck doesn't even move. It has no truss rod either (it's like a '92 or something).
You might as well try! It's not like it's going to permanently damage the neck (if it moves it much at all) or neck joint.
Have you tried different types of strings? Hex core strings might feel a bit better to you. I don't know- I play with a light touch (and .035-.090 or so range strings for most instruments). My 6 has a .120 B and is tighter than both .120 B's on my 36" scale basses. But they definitely make a 35" scale if you need it. How it would affect the balance on the smaller body, though, I don't know.
The rough approximation is that the "sweetspot" pickup is generally right in between the standard bridge/neck setup, and the Stingray's position is a bridge pickup moved slightly neck-ward (about an inch, I think? Can't remember exactly). I don't think Zon normally does "sweetspot" pickups normally.
For reference, that's where Anthony Jackson has his pickup on his Fodera.
As far as sound goes, I think everything depends on all of the factors that go into it- ie, really hard to pin down. Pickup choice, body/neck materials, preamp, joints, etc etc.
In general, though, the closer the pickup is to the bridge, the stronger the higher order harmonics ("brighter", "crisper", "more articulated", or whatever words people use). I'm not a good person for describing tone- I just happen to know I tend to like instruments with pickups in the MM spot.
I was actually talking about pictures of the aforementioned bass I am looking for, with the Lane Poor pickup.
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