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OK, I'm convinced...I need a real power supply
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If that's all it takes for you to walk - reading the manual, you really weren't a customer in the first place.
Of course you can chain all the pedals you want to one power supply, it doesn't guarantee a hiss/humfree gig the day after.
Funny thing is: for years I've played with 4 EBS pedals and a OneSpot without the slightest noise. I had it fit in a selfmade wooden fx-board with small housing for an AC connector. I used thick, properly isolated wire, never had one issue.
My guitar rig consists of different pedals with different needs. 24V, 9V low in mA, 9V a 1000mA. So the differences are pretty big. It was ridiculous: it was like having a mental R2D2 in my board and you never knew when he was coming to hit you. I bought the Voodoo PP2+ and the result was the 'wanted nothing': dead quiet! Later on I hooked up the pedals to Lehle switchers, used goldcontact patchcables and again. Now, with different noise-sources, it is a breeze to play with. Though a bit expensive in the US perhaps it is worth checking out this cool German manufacturer of very well-made switchers/loopers/buffers/preamps.
(btw: the MarkBass Compressore is Italian - on the map the 'boot' of Europe)
So a big +1 voor Voodoo PP2 after 4 years of use.
Funny thing is: for years I've played with 4 EBS pedals and a OneSpot without the slightest noise. I had it fit in a selfmade wooden fx-board with small housing for an AC connector. I used thick, properly isolated wire, never had one issue.
My guitar rig consists of different pedals with different needs. 24V, 9V low in mA, 9V a 1000mA. So the differences are pretty big. It was ridiculous: it was like having a mental R2D2 in my board and you never knew when he was coming to hit you. I bought the Voodoo PP2+ and the result was the 'wanted nothing': dead quiet! Later on I hooked up the pedals to Lehle switchers, used goldcontact patchcables and again. Now, with different noise-sources, it is a breeze to play with. Though a bit expensive in the US perhaps it is worth checking out this cool German manufacturer of very well-made switchers/loopers/buffers/preamps.
(btw: the MarkBass Compressore is Italian - on the map the 'boot' of Europe)
So a big +1 voor Voodoo PP2 after 4 years of use.
IMO, when the thing actually comes out, the new MXR ISO brick will most likely be the one to beat. The one to rule them all. It looks crazy versatile and has a ton of power pumping through it. It is, so they say it is, truly isolated as well. So for what it is at that price point, it's gonna be hard to beat. We've all been eagerly awaiting it's August release over in the breeders thread.
I use two 1spots and an ISO5 powering the majority of my board with a few single warts for things like the rusty box and such. Since switching from the Caline PP5 to the ISO5, my board has gotten quieter. I plan on getting a new MXR ISO brick and do away with the 1spots all together in the future. I didn't buy into what a lot of folks said about getting a good power supply for a larger board for a long time. But it's true. You start getting 10+ pedals, I thinks you should invest in one. Me included. It does indeed make a difference. I still don't think there's anything wrong with 1spots for the most part. But again, when your board is growing and you're getting some digital and different voltaged pedals, well, a 1spot really isn't the best way to go IMO.
I've also heard really good things about the decibel 11 stuff. That hot stone looks hot. And handles some serious ma draw. Also a great choice.
Buy if you can hold out a few weeks for that new MXR ISO brick, I'd strongly recommend it. You went fer yearnin for a power supply right on time jimmy man.
I use two 1spots and an ISO5 powering the majority of my board with a few single warts for things like the rusty box and such. Since switching from the Caline PP5 to the ISO5, my board has gotten quieter. I plan on getting a new MXR ISO brick and do away with the 1spots all together in the future. I didn't buy into what a lot of folks said about getting a good power supply for a larger board for a long time. But it's true. You start getting 10+ pedals, I thinks you should invest in one. Me included. It does indeed make a difference. I still don't think there's anything wrong with 1spots for the most part. But again, when your board is growing and you're getting some digital and different voltaged pedals, well, a 1spot really isn't the best way to go IMO.
I've also heard really good things about the decibel 11 stuff. That hot stone looks hot. And handles some serious ma draw. Also a great choice.
Buy if you can hold out a few weeks for that new MXR ISO brick, I'd strongly recommend it. You went fer yearnin for a power supply right on time jimmy man.
I haven't read the replies but I bought an mxr brick and it hummed like crazy. I swapped it out for a voodoo labs power pedal 2 and it has been quiet ever since. I run all my pedals and sennheiser wireless through it. The only downside is how big it is.
Just read this and the mxr ISO brick sounds amazing. I couldn't find size specs but if it's smaller than the power pedal 2 I will preorder it tomorrow.
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I have a Voodoo Labs under my PT Jr. board, dead quiet with the ability to run an 18v pedal as well.
They frequently sell that combo pre mounted on eBay for cheaper than you can buy them separately, that's how I got mine originally after my Furman board died.
For real? I have a Dunlop brick and still had ground differential attributed noise with a couple of pedals on together.
It runs from an oldschool 18v transformer which is dead silent with all but my RedDragon and BDPG. They insist on gold standard battery power.
I just invested in a 'semi' isolated supply from Parts Express which I thought was fully isolated when I bought it without proper investigation. Horror of horrors, RedDragon pitched a full on hissyfit. I think any switching transformer leaves some signature on the DC that it latches onto.
I am hoping that the MXR Iso Brick is truly isolated, the amount of port and their voltage/current ratings make it very appealing.
For what it's worth, by managing my chain well, and using a Lehle DC Filter, I had very little noise until I went over the 30 pedal mark. Now, at 40+ pedals, it is impossible to have no noise without completely isolated power. The only things I do not have on isolated power are a few midi controllers that are isolated from the audio grounds. Everything else is run off of 5 Decibel 11 PSUs and a home made DC-DCIsolated transformer box that uses DC-DC isolating transformers to convert 1 12v outlet into 4 isolated 9v outlets.
Hopefully the MXRs live up to the hype so I can get 3 of them and grow my boards a bit more.
For what it's worth, by managing my chain well, and using a Lehle DC Filter, I had very little noise until I went over the 30 pedal mark. Now, at 40+ pedals, it is impossible to have no noise without completely isolated power. The only things I do not have on isolated power are a few midi controllers that are isolated from the audio grounds. Everything else is run off of 5 Decibel 11 PSUs and a home made DC-DCIsolated transformer box that uses DC-DC isolating transformers to convert 1 12v outlet into 4 isolated 9v outlets.
Hopefully the MXRs live up to the hype so I can get 3 of them and grow my boards a bit more.
The DC Filter is a nice piece to add too, filtering out voltage-differences between pedals. In my experience it works well, when all the other parts of the chain are well-cared for. Only then it gives you what you want: the last step in a silent chain. It's not meant to be a wonderbox that takes everything unwanted noise out.
Ok, not on the power side. Can't say I have any idea what DC on a signal sounds like either.
I just want RedDragon to shush without battery.
I just want RedDragon to shush without battery.
If I'm not mistaken, MXR now has 2 powersources: the traditionnal but now grey DC Brick and the totally new IsoBrick. This one ain't out in stores yet, but MXR told me Thursday it should roll out within the next 2 weeks, so I ordered one.
I may have missed it but what pedals are you/do you intend running on your PT?
Moving to Europe meant dumping my Voodoo Labs (it was great but like many things Stateside - not multi voltage!) but buying a new one that:
a) fits
b) has the requisite outputs
became pretty tough. I am trying to run: Strymon Verb, Zoom 70 multi effects and a Line 6 wireless G50 + a few usual guitar effects. This board covers bass and guitar duty. Not an easy task as these former 3 draw a lot of current and I have to use 2 power bricks to get the job done just for these three. I had not really paid a lot of attention to a pedal's power drawer and blithely believed that you just plugged 'em in and thats it. Not so!
Anyway, to get to the meat in the coconut:
Voodoo Labs
T-Rex Chameleon (plenty of power adjustment)
Joyo (for a cheapie with compromises but requires some bodging to make it fit). It's less than $50
BBE (mid-price)
Good luck
Moving to Europe meant dumping my Voodoo Labs (it was great but like many things Stateside - not multi voltage!) but buying a new one that:
a) fits
b) has the requisite outputs
became pretty tough. I am trying to run: Strymon Verb, Zoom 70 multi effects and a Line 6 wireless G50 + a few usual guitar effects. This board covers bass and guitar duty. Not an easy task as these former 3 draw a lot of current and I have to use 2 power bricks to get the job done just for these three. I had not really paid a lot of attention to a pedal's power drawer and blithely believed that you just plugged 'em in and thats it. Not so!
Anyway, to get to the meat in the coconut:
Voodoo Labs
T-Rex Chameleon (plenty of power adjustment)
Joyo (for a cheapie with compromises but requires some bodging to make it fit). It's less than $50
BBE (mid-price)
Good luck
Quite a few...two wirelesses, MXR 6-Band EQ, Southampton All Things Equal, Pitch Fork, OC-2, Bass Chorus Deluxe, Carbon Copy, MXR Bass Distortion, Animato clone, Greedtone OD clone, SCR-DI or VT Deluxe, TC tuner.
BBE Supacharger handles US/EU voltages and afaik has slightly more intersting specs than the PP2+. I've been powering my PT-JR and multiple pedal configurations with it for years without a single issue.
If I were to choose now, I'd probably check out the MXR ISO brick and the Decibel 11 offerings as well. Depends on your power reuirements, and if those PSUs actually do fit under a PT-JR.
If I were to choose now, I'd probably check out the MXR ISO brick and the Decibel 11 offerings as well. Depends on your power reuirements, and if those PSUs actually do fit under a PT-JR.
I live in Europe, on the Voodoo PP2+ I use:
2x Little Lehle 2, BBE Optostomp, Way Huge Swollen Pickle, MXR CAE Wah, Lehle D.loop, EHX Q tron (24v), Line6 FM4 (9V 1000mA). All independent except the two shared leds of the Little Lehle 2 (cause the boxes are passive).
I use the AC output for a TC Electronic multi-fx.
(this is actually my guitar rig, but it makes clear what you can do with a PP2)
I've tried lots of stuff, but true independent and buffered circuitry does the trick. Which is logical. For me, Lehle and Voodoo did it all. But don't forget your cables: I had two that weren't properly isolated, while the manufacturer said they were.
The DC filter filters out pops, caused by different voltage-amounts between your chain and fx-pedals. Especially fuzz pedals are known to cause this. Mine did. Just a bit. And then it was gone.
2x Little Lehle 2, BBE Optostomp, Way Huge Swollen Pickle, MXR CAE Wah, Lehle D.loop, EHX Q tron (24v), Line6 FM4 (9V 1000mA). All independent except the two shared leds of the Little Lehle 2 (cause the boxes are passive).
I use the AC output for a TC Electronic multi-fx.
(this is actually my guitar rig, but it makes clear what you can do with a PP2)
I've tried lots of stuff, but true independent and buffered circuitry does the trick. Which is logical. For me, Lehle and Voodoo did it all. But don't forget your cables: I had two that weren't properly isolated, while the manufacturer said they were.
The DC filter filters out pops, caused by different voltage-amounts between your chain and fx-pedals. Especially fuzz pedals are known to cause this. Mine did. Just a bit. And then it was gone.
