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old guys playing originals?

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Hi Jack,

I think "experience" is relative.

Even though I have been out there on the front lines for the past 45 years, my abilities are limited. There are still questions I will ask and there are many aspects of performance and executing dynamics that I will always struggle with.

Pompous, maybe, I'm sure that's how I come off to many and I can live with that. Ignorant, you bet, however I really try not to comment on things I have little to no knowledge on.

Rock Star, maybe when I was 17 thats what I thought. At 59, I think I'm pretty humble. For example, I don't take myself half as serious as many of the TBers do.

Regards

Blue

You know,I should just let this go and take the high road...
But...

I think many here take umbrage when it comes to many of your posts because on one hand you come off very condesending,judgemental and know it all-ish. But on the other hand you yourself are on record about taking 30 years off from performing (this is a post YOU started.Just because you deleted some of it,it is still there in quotes) and have a slew of posts from a little while ago asking for all kninds of advise on playing out.

If you don't see the dichotomy and how silly it seems to some then I really don't know what else can be said.
 
lfmn16 said:
There is a difference between 45 years experience and 1 year of experience 45 times. I think it's apparent which we have here. :D

I would never change anything or part of the fun I've had and still having.

There's nothing better than being in an established band with good people and getting paid to do something you love.

I'm so glad my parents had the TV on CBS on February 9th, 1964. My life has never been the same since and I'm proud of it.

Regards

Blue
 
FWIW- tonight I get to play on a live radio (on air) show with a couple of 20 year old gals. It's kick ass bluesy rock nice, loose and fun. It's great music and it's fun jammin with them..... all originals.

They could care less I'm 50 years old :bassist:
 
I think older guys over 50 at the local level can play whatever type of music they want.

I think it depends on what type of band experience you want. If your main objective is to have fun there might be a lot of opportunities.

Opportunities for originals might be limited if your looking to make money and gig locally 2-3 times a week minimum depending on where you live.

Blue
 
As an original band, one might not necessarily want to gig several nights a week for fear of oversaturation. Even the best fans won't come out several times a month, so you will never get the full force of your following if you gig too often in the same area.

True, in Milwaukee if an Originals Club owner knows your band played at another club in Milwaukee lets say in September, they won't book you until November or December.

My point is, if an over 50 guy wants to gig a lot and make money, is originals the right path?

blue
 
As an original band, one might not necessarily want to gig several nights a week for fear of oversaturation. Even the best fans won't come out several times a month, so you will never get the full force of your following if you gig too often in the same area.

That much is true of a gigging original act regardless of the age of the players. The old formula for a nationally touring act was that they would come to your town once a year. Any more than that, and they might weaken their draw.

I'm in an originals band, and in the space of 1 month+ we've got over half a dozen shows. The trick? Spacing them out geographically, ie GETTING ON THE ROAD. Oversaturation is much less of an issue when you're playing different markets. And the tough part there is making the travelling expenses balance out with the gig income.
 
I only started writing music when I was in my 40;s. If I wanted to be rich and famous I would have chosen to do something other than play the bass and write jazz fusion music. I have long since accepted the fact that I will usually play in obscurity but I just love playing so I don;t care. I play music right now that is far more satisfying than what I was playing when I was in my 20's.
 
My originals band has a once a month standing gig at one location, other gigs in the area (within 50 miles) throughout the month. We have one tonight and another tomorrow night. The BL was contacted this week about using one of the songs in a made for TV movie.
 
Guess it depends on where you are. In north Texas there are plenty of opportunities for originals. We are playing 4 times in the next two weeks and average 4 or 5 gigs a month within 60 miles of Dallas. Most of the place we play have a built in crowd because people know the caliber of music that these places book. We have even played twice in a week at our close to home regular place, on a Thursday for our full show and then on the weekend opening for a name act.
 
I play in an all originals band of 40ish dudes...its a great time.we play in clubs on the LES of manhattan and win over younger crowds regularly...we played a gig last week and when we were done the soundman said "when you guys were setting up I didnt know what to make of you...but once you started playing,wow you guys are incredible..."
so you just cant tell from a books cover how its gonna be.we dont shy from being out of shape older dudes,and as long as your honest (and good) people dont seem to care
and with the stones still rockin at 70, **** we are young...
 
Well, it's refreshing to hear stories about nice opportunities and active working opportunities for older guys playing in originals bands in other parts of the country. It's certainly not that way here in Milwaukee.

Blue
 
IMHO a lot of this whole thread is silly. Think about it. Let's say you listen to a new song and you like it. Is the first question you ask after hearing it "I wonder how old the people that made this cool song are?"? Good music is good music. And if it's good there will be people that want to listen to it. Maybe a large group of people,maybe a small group of people but none the less people will want to hear it.

Saying "Well,I just don't think it will work.Not around here anyways." Is just a bad attitude and you have failed because you never even tried. Or maybe you tried and failed because the music was not good. That does not mean someone else can't make it happen.

Age has nothing to do with it. OK,sure. If you want to make pop music for kids to listen to then yes, you have to have a certian "look". But like I said, good music is good music. People did not stop coming to Pink Floyd concerts when they started to loose their looks (did they even have looks to begin with? lol)
 
JumboJack said:
IMHO a lot of this whole thread is silly. Think about it. Let's say you listen to a new song and you like it. Is the first question you ask after hearing it "I wonder how old the people that made this cool song are?"? Good music is good music. And if it's good there will be people that want to listen to it. Maybe a large group of people,maybe a small group of people but none the less people will want to hear it.

Saying "Well,I just don't think it will work.Not around here anyways." Is just a bad attitude and you have failed because you never even tried. Or maybe you tried and failed because the music was not good. That does not mean someone else can't make it happen.

Age has nothing to do with it. OK,sure. If you want to make pop music for kids to listen to then yes, you have to have a certian "look". But like I said, good music is good music. People did not stop coming to Pink Floyd concerts when they started to loose their looks (did they even have looks to begin with? lol)

I agree, age is probably not the issue.

I thunk the issue is whatever the age, in your area is playing in an originals band going to give you what you want out if a band. And that spectrum could be merely playing in the basement with friends once a month to gigging 3 times a week.
 
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