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Opinion on an MTD endorsement

Have been offered an endorsement from MTD Kingston series basses. This company is based out of my hometown and endorses a good friend of mine.
I typically play Schecter basses. The Elite series. I love them.
The deal with MTD would get me a great price on their products, including strings.

So..

Do I take the deal?

What does everyone think of the product?
 
Depends. Do you actually like those basses, and would use them? Do you like them enough to have your name associated with them?

For me, if I were in your shoes and had something I loved and played constantly (i.e., my EBMMs) and MTD came to me with an offer, I would have to turn it away, as I don't play MTDs and I can't see myself playing them, even if I got them at reduced cost. That's me though.
 
I have played them. I thought they were nice. But they were different and a little more than I wanted to spend at the time that I was purchasing my 5 string.
So I got a deal on another Schecter and went with that instead.

But now, there's this offer. It's a very good deal. And definite publicity. So....
 
The deal with MTD would get me a great price on their products, including strings.

So..

Do I take the deal?
If you have to BUY the gear, I can't see that the endorsement amounts to anything short of an insult.

That's ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Check out what a real endorsement deal is like sometime.

What does everyone think of the product?
I wouldn't be seen onstage with it, nor with a Schecter.
 
Bongolation said:
If you have to BUY the gear, I can't see that the endorsement amounts to anything short of an insult.

That's ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Check out what a real endorsement deal is like sometime.

I wouldn't be seen onstage with it, nor with a Schecter.

Actually, most endorsement deal require you to pay something. At least the cost of the instrument. The freebies are saved for the platinum selling artists who get lots of exposure. Not a regional act like me. So a real endorsement deal is exactly what I will get from them and what I have from Clayton as well.

As for your dislike of the brands... Different tastes are fine. I have brands I wouldnt touch either. But I stand behind mine. And so do a lot of the talk bass members.
 
If you liked the MTD and as you said could not afford one when you got the Schecter, and are in the market to buy a new bass now, then the question is why not? If you don't like it and are not looking to buy new gear then it is a bad trade. You won't be getting a new bass and still have to only be seen with theirs. I think you should counter offer them and ask for no discount but a free bass. It's not a take it or leave it. It's a negotiation, which most guys don't realize. Just like buying a car, some people haggle and some people take the first offer.
 
Actually, most endorsement deal require you to pay something. At least the cost of the instrument. The freebies are saved for the platinum selling artists who get lots of exposure. Not a regional act like me. So a real endorsement deal is exactly what I will get from them and what I have from Clayton as well.

As for your dislike of the brands... Different tastes are fine. I have brands I wouldnt touch either. But I stand behind mine. And so do a lot of the talk bass members.

agreed - never heard of any 'regular' (ie not real famous or somehow linked to the company) bassist getting gear for free regardless of their endorsement - usually cost on basses, discount on other stuff - and plenty of free schwag..... of course :bassist:
 
Actually, most endorsement deal require you to pay something. At least the cost of the instrument. The freebies are saved for the platinum selling artists who get lots of exposure. Not a regional act like me. So a real endorsement deal is exactly what I will get from them and what I have from Clayton as well.
The endorsement deals I personally know of are far better than that for non-charting recording acts.

I personally wouldn't want to be associated with marginal brands unless there was significant compensation, but more to the point, I'm reminded of a long article on endorsements I once read in one of the major mags, the burden of which being that these are best avoided unless there is really significant compensation beyond the free-gear stage.

They're getting you for nothing here.

You're getting a discount I can beat on Amazon (where MTD was dumping product at twenty cents on the dollar), and a public association with B-brand product.

I just don't see it as any kind of a smart move.

As for your dislike of the brands... Different tastes are fine. I have brands I wouldnt touch either. But I stand behind mine. And so do a lot of the talk bass members.

Yeah, that's fine, but you're missing the point: These are marginal brands in terms of public recognition and pro status. It's not about whether or not I personally like these basses or not. In endorsements this is the central issue, not quality. You should research this sometime. It's kind of interesting...but most of it's just common sense.

If you're a pro, or just have pro ambitions, remember my rule:

Never let anything second-rate be associated with your act.

At least not unless you're being handsomely paid for it, and you won't be until you're fairly high up the ladder.
 
Seems to me the company is actually selling you product that you wouldn't have bought otherwise. Even just from that part of the deal they're making money; they're making money even if you don't bring in any additional business.

It may be called an endorsement, but that sure doesn't seem like a true endorsement to me. More like a scam.
 
Noonan768 said:
Have been offered an endorsement from MTD Kingston series basses. This company is based out of my hometown and endorses a good friend of mine.
I typically play Schecter basses. The Elite series. I love them.
The deal with MTD would get me a great price on their products, including strings.

So..

Do I take the deal?

What does everyone think of the product?


Are you in the position of getting any mods from the company? I used to own several US MTDs which were just awesome instruments. But i also had a cheaper Asian made MTD which had cheap sounding pickups and electronics. I bet you'll need to swap these after your first gig or recording session. :)
 
If you have to BUY the gear, I can't see that the endorsement amounts to anything short of an insult.

That's ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Check out what a real endorsement deal is like sometime.


I wouldn't be seen onstage with it, nor with a Schecter.

Haha somebody here has obviously never met a sponsored player. You know that unless you sell like 10000 basses a year or your the face of their company, you just get stuff at cost.

Here is another question for you. Who do you think pays for your rider to get filled? Because it comes out of the band's pay. Yeah that was a shock for me the first time....
 

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