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orange amps...

BillyB_from_LZ said:
Embrace a Google Search...

I saw a new 200 watt head at a store for $1999. It was sitting on top of a brand new SVT-CL that was $300 or $400 less...

It sounded good in the Alan Woody instruction video.

haha. damn. i wish another brand would embrace simplicity AND sub-1000 dollar prices.
 
Bassman62 said:
I took home and tried the AD200 Bass head, I took it straight back!
The Orange AD200 was at best a very heavy and very expensive (at £1100 UK) 200 watt all valve/tube slave amp, the preamp was a waste of time, but then again were'nt the best orange amps built by Matt Mathias?

Really? I love my Orange and find I can get a few great sounds out of it. What didn't you like about the preamp? How it was voiced or something else?
 
Bassman62 said:
I took home and tried the AD200 Bass head, I took it straight back!
The Orange AD200 was at best a very heavy and very expensive (at £1100 UK) 200 watt all valve/tube slave amp, the preamp was a waste of time, but then again were'nt the best orange amps built by Matt Mathias?

They are VERY pricey (orange tolex cost a lot I guess), but I think they are also great sounding amps. Weight is around 40-50lbs (the traynor is 41 or 42 I think), which for a all tube amp is light!!!!:cool:

Maybe the preamp on your orange had a bad tube or something. Do you tend to like tube amps in general?

My view is that the orange is easy to get a good tone from (as long as you like it's natural voicing), but don't expect tons of variety. I find the traynor can get nicer tones (to my ear), and more tonal variety (including hi-fi), but without a good understanding of the EQ and it's 'range' and 'resonance', you can more easily dial in bad tone.
 
PMC89 said:
that traynor is ebast. and for sub-700 bucks? seems to good to be true...

Sometimes I feel like I am whoring out Traynor YBA200's... but they are honestly that good! Low price, made in Canada, solid as a rock construction (2 year even if you break it warranty to back it up), great tone, light (for tube), lots of features. After adding the white piping to my traynor/matching cab I would say it is also a HOT looking amp (I love that it shows off the tubes).

The traynor even has almost an identical set of tubes as the Orange... except that the tube types in the traynor preamp allow for slightly more clean headroom. The fact that this amp can hold it's own with tube amps 2-3x the price says something.

I really don't know how Traynor does it... but it is the real deal... not some cheap thrown together amp.

Anyone know where Orange is made these days? I remember readingthat their lower end combos are china or something, but what about the tube amps?
 
gwx014 said:
Really? I love my Orange and find I can get a few great sounds out of it. What didn't you like about the preamp? How it was voiced or something else?
The pre-amp was virtualy meaninglaess especialy the mid range control my wife couldn't tell much difference at all between full cut or full on with the mid control, I was able to compare it with a 90s Orange amp which tone-wise blew it away, I also used an Orange 120 amp for Bass in the 70s so unless it was faulty it sucked for me.
 
throw_this_away said:
They are VERY pricey (orange tolex cost a lot I guess), but I think they are also great sounding amps. Weight is around 40-50lbs (the traynor is 41 or 42 I think), which for a all tube amp is light!!!!:cool:

Maybe the preamp on your orange had a bad tube or something. Do you tend to like tube amps in general?

My view is that the orange is easy to get a good tone from (as long as you like it's natural voicing), but don't expect tons of variety. I find the traynor can get nicer tones (to my ear), and more tonal variety (including hi-fi), but without a good understanding of the EQ and it's 'range' and 'resonance', you can more easily dial in bad tone.
They weigh 53lbs, I was brought up on tube/valve amps, I've been gigging since 1962, my basses are a MM Stingray5, a G&L L2500 and a 1962 Burns 6 string Bass. into an Ashdowm Pre-amp and powered cabs.
 
Bassman62 said:
They weigh 53lbs, I was brought up on tube/valve amps, I've been gigging since 1962, my basses are a MM Stingray5, a G&L L2500 and a 1962 Burns 6 string Bass. into an Ashdowm Pre-amp and powered cabs.

Nice gear!!! I think your views show why people should be careful with some boutique stuff... what they do, they do really well... but only if you like that one thing they do really well.
 
Bassman62 said:
The pre-amp was virtualy meaninglaess especialy the mid range control my wife couldn't tell much difference at all between full cut or full on with the mid control, I was able to compare it with a 90s Orange amp which tone-wise blew it away, I also used an Orange 120 amp for Bass in the 70s so unless it was faulty it sucked for me.

Maybe something was wrong with it. Although it's not a very flexible preamp the controls work, at least on mine. :)
 
i've had my AD200 for about 6 or 7 months now and was well worth every cent i spent on it. I got it from rudymusic in manhatten for about $1700 brand new (after taxes and everything). I'll give everyone that they dont have alot of sound choice to choose from and they only give of a few different tones, but all the tones you can get out of it are amazing IMO. Another big factor in mine was the price though, i got it for less than the Ampeg Svt-cl which was the other head i was looking at so it seemed dumb for me not to get the head i like more at a lower price.

I guess the heads just not for everyone but to me and some of the people that play out of it, it's simply the best.

and BTW, the 200 watts handles every i've thrown at it just fine, including two Mesa Triple recitifer half stacks in a metal band that i'm not longer in.