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Orange tb500c

New amp day!

Ok. So I've been playing the rh450 w 2x12 and a 2x10 for the last couple years and it never did much for me ..,. Sounded overly compressed or digital for my tastes. So I've had my eye on this combo for about a month. And low and behold they finally are available.

Set this baby flat, kicked it on. And there it is! Nice and simple great sounding rig! Great sound out of the box! Love it!
 

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That's interesting. I am rocking the TC RH450 and 2x10's right now. I like it fine but I can see how some would find it a little stale. I certainly don't want anything much bigger. But... I love orange stuff. The company has been great to me as a dealer. Maybe I need to find a way to work this into my plans.
 
Yea ..don't get me wrong..the feature set is awesome on the tc stuff...tuner compressor...etc...the sound just never did it for me....this thing has a great raw rock n roll sound.....and if its a one trick pony I'm fine w/ that! Cause thats all I want ...1 Great Bass sound... another note....the tc stuff wasn't greatly reliable...i had the board fry out on me and it missed two gigs....which kinda put a bad taste in my mouth.
 
Tried one today in a local music store. sounded like a more vintage version of my mesa m-pulse venture 210 combo. just as loud but seemed to way less than half of the mesa. great classic tube bass sound. chained it up to a hartke 410 cab they had and it sounded better than any full stack i've ever played. AWESOME. probably going to get one for myself.
 
Its not to do with tubes or not, it is to do with the construction of the tone stack, valves just provide gain. You can use the fender style tone stack with ss gain, if you want that style of tone shaping. Bassy = not flat.

Edit: and I double checked and the amp has a valve pre anyway.
 
i know, i bought it :)
but I said full tube amps have that flat setting B-0, M-10, T-0
Fender tone stack, yes.
Like on every other digital and solid state amp, flat is all in the middle position.

No. All amps have their own baked in EQ. A lot are flat but for most, you need to tweak it to get "flat". The RH450 is a classic example - to get a "flat" response you need some extreme EQ settings. BGM posted the settings for "flat" in their review.
 
i know, i bought it :)
but I said full tube amps have that flat setting B-0, M-10, T-0
but it's a digital output, so the flat setting is all in the middle. Like on every other digital and solid state amp, flat is all in the middle position.

Tone stack is nothing to do with the power section, except presence if there is one, sometimes. And plenty of valve amps have other sorts of EQ, some of which are flat in the middle.

And that tone stack definitely isn't flat in the middle.
 
This is only true for tube amps that use the "Fender tonestack"
Some (all?) Ampegs use the Baxandall tonestack, for example, which works in a very different way

Ampegs have a second stage which gives the mid control in addition. Matamp and earlier Orange designs ten to have a plain Baxandall, which is basically a more flexible circuit, but people often judge tone shaping with their eyes rather than ears as is demonstrated above, so the extra knob with 'mid' on it is important. This is pretty enlightening: http://www.duncanamps.com/tsc/download.html