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P with flats your only bass?

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Just curious. I sometimes think I'd like to do that, but then the band plays a tune like "Uptown Funk" and I need a 5 string with rounds?

Everyone says all you need is a P (with flats?) but sometimes that just doesn't work, right? I watch Sean Hurley talk about dumping his 5 string Lakland for a 4 string P. That's all he plays now.

Thoughts?
For my country gig, at home practice and occasional recording I could be fine with noting but a P-with-flats. However, for church I need something with more sizzle.

Personally, my P-bass has almost always worn nice dead roundwound strings and that's how I prefer it.
 
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YES (Though I own 3 other basses)
20200924_170311.jpg 2014 Am.Std Precision & Dunlop 45-105 Flatwounds. This bass has been my main player for almost 6 years, & the reason why I haven't wanted another precision bass :thumbsup:.
 
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Quick note on the flats vs rounds thing, and forgive me for being a little Get Off My Lawn in my comments.

One of the attractions of rounds is the "zing" and "clang" of a brand new set. I think a lot of folks find that it sounds cool on the bass listening to it by itself (and it does kind of). Others are specifically after the Chris Squire-like grind, even on non-Rickenbacker basses.

But there are drawbacks to this, which are reasons to let the strings die completely and never change them, or go to flats for an even deader sound:

- note-to-note consistency, if that's what you want, is significantly more difficult to achieve. The fundamental and lower harmonics not only need to be generated the same, so does the zing and clang. But zing and clang on new strings is much harder to control, especially finger style on the fretted bass. The string has to smack the frets exactly the same way each time - generally this means hitting the thing so hard you start breaking your arm, going to a pick which alleviates it somewhat but then you got to learn how to play with a pick, or simply accepting inconsistencies in the zing and clang. This gives the clink, clack, thud, clank, thud, grind, grind, thud, clink back-and-forth thing on every successive note. I personally just absolutely climb the frickin walls when I hear (or have) that effect, tho others don't mind it or even like it, and it can be a liability depending on the tone you want to achieve.

- if you use compression, the zing and clang can activate compression more than the other components of the note, defeating the purpose of the compression on the fundamental/low harmonics in the first place. This depends on your compressor, but this can drive you crazy in some cases. The really zingy/clangy notes will lack fundamental/lower harmonics and the less zingy/clangy ones will bloom like crazy. You can control this somewhat with the attack/release settings, but it forces you to do so even if you don't want to.

- in a live situation (IIRC from years ago gigging zing/clang on my Rickenbacker), most if not all of the zing/clang is attenuated somewhat in the FOH once mixed with the rest of the band. Some rooms have certain types of reflectivity that completely mute the treble coming out of your amp period once you step off the stage and get onto the floor. Folks right up at the stage can sort of hear it if they listen specifically to your amp, but generally it's much less audible out there. And once the guy playing guitar runs his finger along the underneath of his knobs on his amp, dooming the rest of the gig as one long guitar solo, it can disappear completely leaving only your fundamental and midbass at the audiences' ears. Usually you standing in front of your amp are the only one enjoying or hating the zing/clang. That doesn't hold if there's a PA and you're running a DI out to it, though, quite as much. But generally in a live situation, zing/clang doesn't actually buy you anything because it's hard to hear anyway.

So all these I have found to be good reasons to let my rounds die and never change them once they get that good thump going without the zing/clang. Or, if I need that effect quickly, put flats on the bass. The only drawback of flats is they have less sustain than rounds and are generally higher tension. So they tend to be less good at, say, the Jaco thing than a set of years-old dead rounds even though they may excel in the Motown thump thing over against dead rounds.

Anyway, that's just some notes I vaguely remember about rounds vs flats from The Good Old Days when I was gigging...

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Everyone says all you need is a P (with flats?) but sometimes that just doesn't work, right? I watch Sean Hurley talk about dumping his 5 string Lakland for a 4 string P. That's all he plays now.

Screw what everyone says, especially when it comes to the TB-centric 'all you need is a P with flats' argument. A P with flats will cover many genres very well, but will not cover everything. Same goes for a Jazz with rounds, or a Stingray, or every other bass. Do NOT let other people tell you what you need and don't need, what brand you should and shouldn't use and what you should sound like. If you get your sound that works for your needs on the ugliest, off-brand $60 Craigslist bass using 4 different kinds of strings then is a valid option.

That being said, I play exclusively 5's and prefer a P tone over a J tone. My main is an active PJ5 with flats (TI's at the moment), my other main is an active PJ5 with stainless (months old stainless at least). Using pedals with my main, I can get pretty much everything I need for my current 70's cover project out of my main with flats. Other projects like an original rock trio I was in required stainless. I rarely if ever used the B string in my current project, but I still take the 5's as that is where I am comfortable.
 
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Just curious. I sometimes think I'd like to do that, but then the band plays a tune like "Uptown Funk" and I need a 5 string with rounds?

Everyone says all you need is a P (with flats?) but sometimes that just doesn't work, right? I watch Sean Hurley talk about dumping his 5 string Lakland for a 4 string P. That's all he plays now.

Thoughts?

I’ve been doing all my electric gigs with a P with flats only for 10+ yesrs. It’s good for >90% of what I need it for: wedding bands, musical theatre, church, and occasionally original rock/hip-hop/pop/etc.

As you said in your original post, though—a P with flats is not the ideal sound for everything. Modern gospel is one example. Certain Top 40 (e.g., Uptown Funk) is another.

I’ve wished for an active 5 a few times over the years... if I had one it would get used.
 
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I would have said no ten years ago, but at this point I have sort of done this.

I sold my 5s, 6, fretless, Jazz, and a myriad other basses and currently have an ibanez rb650 pj with flats. Although it has a jazz pickup, I turn it off. That being said, I am retired from the stage as far as bass goes and only jam with friends a few times a year
 
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Just curious. I sometimes think I'd like to do that, but then the band plays a tune like "Uptown Funk" and I need a 5 string with rounds?

Everyone says all you need is a P (with flats?) but sometimes that just doesn't work, right? I watch Sean Hurley talk about dumping his 5 string Lakland for a 4 string P. That's all he plays now.

Thoughts?
I have 2. Both PJs, Both packed with Nordstrands, same elixir nickel round strings, 100% different tones. Yes, I play 1 more than the other. Yes, I can do anything on either of them. I've got a new body coming with a soapbar and a MM set up. We'll see what I can do with that when its done. I'll most likely still just play my purple P with rounds :)
 
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The point is that almost all situations can be 'done' on a Pw/flats. But this also kind of illuminates how little the listener cares for the specific tone of the bass in any given situation, and the Pw/flats tone is so ubiquitous that it will in fact work in every situation regardless of what the original recording was, and that the Pw/flats tone works so well in a band mix that it's worth almost any other sacrifice. (and slapping on a Pw/flats is pretty cool too)
 
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I play exclusively a p with flats, they're chromes. I'm currently considering putting a set of rounds on, and playing in standard D because:

1) I just sold a lakland and now sometimes want to play a low D, but don't want to play drop d
2) rounds are too bright for me, but i believe that tuning down warms up a string.
3) I think the tuning down the chromes wouldn't be articulate enough for what i want to do.