Pair of 210 for vertical stack under 1000

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by olicor, Jun 8, 2020.


  1. Fender rumble 210 V3

    26 vote(s)
    52.0%
  2. Hartke Hydrive HD 210 (black grill)

    14 vote(s)
    28.0%
  3. ampeg pf210 HE

    10 vote(s)
    20.0%
  1. olicor

    olicor

    Sep 1, 2015
    Hello bassists !:)
    My name is Olivier from France, i m 46, been playing bass for may be 18 years , switching from guitar. I like and play many genres in my cover band , pop rock funk reagge. I ve spent a lot of time reading on TB because it s simply the best resource you can find that deals with our beloved instrument. Today i post for the first time as i need some advices to choose my next pair of cabs. As i always struggle to hear myself on stage, i opted for a pair of same cabs stacked vertically. A pair of 210 seem to be a good choice as it will be taller than a 2 12 and generally speaking, i like the sound of tens better than 12's.
    i only can spend 1000 euros for the pair and it has to be new.
    they will be powered by a tone hammer 500 so i think they need to handle at least 300w rms each 8 ohms.
    i think about 3 models that are
    1 fender rumble 210
    2 hartke Hydrive HD 210( the "new" ones black)
    3 ampeg PF 210 HE portaflex
    I have a bad back so light is good and the fender and hartke are lighter but if the ampeg sounds better, i can lift a few more pounds.
    Based on your experience, which one do you think will best suit my needs.
    thank you very much.
    ps: where i live, i can t try these cabs hence this thread.
     
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  2. Chef

    Chef Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member In Memoriam

    May 23, 2004
    Columbia MO
    Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine
    Don't forget the Ampeg 210AV.
     
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  3. olicor

    olicor

    Sep 1, 2015
    Thank you Chef for your input !
    with its 200 watts RMS won t the ampeg 210 AV struggle with the 250 w output at 8 ohms of the tonehammer ?
     
  4. Chef

    Chef Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member In Memoriam

    May 23, 2004
    Columbia MO
    Staff Reviewer; Bass Gear Magazine
    I don’t think so,
    Especially since you want two of them for a pair....
     
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  5. If you stretch the budget just a little a Barefaced 212 is about 1100 EU delivered. All the cab anyone should need.
     
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  6. olicor

    olicor

    Sep 1, 2015
    thanks Downunderwonder !
    i think you re talkin the supertwin at this price.
    i m sure it s a fabulous cab but it won t do the vertical stack i m after and also 4 ohms it will be a standalone and i loose the modularity of the two cabs solution. and no horn two, i would like a defeatable horn if possible.
    there s the big twin too with horn but out of budget.
    But i have to admit that for a bit more money we are now in the boutique category so good suggestion ...
    keep coming fellas and please don t forget the poll for those who have played the three cabs mentionned.
     
  7. blastoff

    blastoff

    Sep 5, 2007
    way out west
    yea 1500 EU will get you two barefaced two10, but youll save money on chiropractor visits!
     
  8. olicor

    olicor

    Sep 1, 2015
    a pair of 200w is a 400w stack and the tonehammer is 500w 4 ohms output with a class d power section that seems to be quiet generous. i already have a hard time singing backink vovals while playing so if i have to think about not fryin the speakers it s gonna be impossible :laugh:
     
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  9. olicor

    olicor

    Sep 1, 2015
    sure they re great and if i was playing music for a living i will invest in such gear but for now and if i don t want to divorce i have to stick to more affordable choices
     
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  10. olicor

    olicor

    Sep 1, 2015
    the hartke sounds good to my ears ( via this youtube video)

    and quite versatile. His motown sound would be my reggae sound but from what i ear i m impress by the clarity of the slap sound and the depth of the motown sound. When he plays the 5 stingray i can also clearly ear the low B string different notes whereas sometimes i see fingers moving on a low B string that seems to produce only one low pitch.
    anyone have experienced this cab ?
    how it compares to the fender rumble and ampeg.
    i once played and only for a few minutes a rumble 210 combo V3 and maybe i m wrong but to my ears it was more about lowmids than low lows if it make sense.
    is there someone here that has play and can compare the two ?
    thanks
     
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  11. Clark W

    Clark W Just Say No To Tort! Supporting Member

    Aug 26, 2018
    GK CX210
    400 watt power handling (8 ohms)
    weight is 37 lbs.
    $389 (U.S. dollars)
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2020
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  12. AdamR

    AdamR Supporting Member

    Sep 24, 2007
    Bethel CT
    Another vote for the GK CX210s
     
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  13. mattjbass

    mattjbass

    Mar 23, 2017
    I have a pair of svt210av’s , they are Great, and loud with an amazing tone. I prefer them to my old Genz Benz 212, and Edens before that.
     
  14. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    I was underwhelmed by the Hydrives and the Ampegs.
     
  15. olicor

    olicor

    Sep 1, 2015
    thank you guys ... gk cx 210 looks like a new contender.
    but i can t find any video demoing it.
    so you think it s better than the rumble c3 210 or the Hartke 210 HD ?
     
  16. olicor

    olicor

    Sep 1, 2015
    thanks ! with only 200 w handling power wasn t an issue ?
     
  17. olicor

    olicor

    Sep 1, 2015
    thanks buldog, tell me please are you talkin the new hartkes or the previous version (aluminium grill) and for the ampeg, the svt av or the PF ?
     
  18. Pulverizor

    Pulverizor

    Jun 14, 2018
    New Zealand
    Buying from Thomann? They don't stock the GK's unfortunately and can you actually stack those Ampeg cabs with the fliptops?!
    I say the Hartkes, for the ease of carrying and minimal footprint. They're a small cab so won't have the best low-end extension but that's less mud to dial out :thumbsup:.
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2020
  19. equill

    equill

    Nov 25, 2010
    Madrid
    If you buy from Thomann, you can send them back within 30 days for a refund. Not as convenient as just trying them out in a store, but worth considering.

    Maybe consider Markbass, if weight is an issue?
     
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  20. SJan3

    SJan3 Supporting Member

    Dec 8, 2010
    Ct.
    MarkBass 102P x 2
     
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