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Double Bass Palatino Megathread part I

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Mark,

I recently purchased one from a luthier who does work for my wife’s music shop here in Lexington. I would have been put off by the instrument if it was from anyone but him (ie, the price seemed way too reasonable to possibly make this a good piece). However, I too, noticed the “extra” sensitivity of the pickups.

My solution: went to Walmart and spent 22 cents on a piece of black felt and a buck or so on some Velcro tabs. Weave the piece of felt through the strings between the tail piece and the bridge, secure with the Velcro. This tames down the sensitivity but does not muddy the sound (plus, it is easily reversible and does not look too noticeable).

Regarding eq’ing the bass, I set the tone knob about midpoint, keep the volume knob very low, and run into a Fishman ProEq Platinum bass preamp (I got it for ~$170 online). Starting with the recommended settings on the preamp for “studio acoustic bass” makes this thing sound unbelievably like a traditional double bass.

To note, all this is on the stock strings. I do have some Pirastro Obligatos on order and will try them out in a week or so when they come in.

I have been playing bass guitar for years and have just moved to the electric upright recently. I must say it is more fun than I could have imagined. Hope this helps.

Regards,

- Ken
 
Hi Ken,

Thanks very kindly for all of the help! I'm gonna go ahead and get one and work with some mods. My big thing is strings, so I'm first going to put some Helicore Hybrids on the thing, make some major bridge adjustments, then do your felt trick. In the shop, I have the tone turned down pretty much and the volume backed off to about 3/4. That sounds pretty good, but I'm sure it'll sound better through my SansAmp with a proper EQ.
It's been 20 years since I played on an upright and this is all very exciting. I'm sure I'll have a blast with it.
Thank you very much for your time and words!

Mark
 
How much did your guys' Palatino cost you? I've found it for $660, but I'm wondering if there's anywhere that sells it cheaper. I'm a nice tight little budget, so I want to be able to buy the Palatino along with a bow without killing my pocket. I called that WiresOnWood place, but they're out of business for quite a while.
 
I got mine through a local dealer. I wanted to go that way because I really wanted to play THE bass that I was going to own. Got it for a bit under $660. You'll definitely want to add new strings which will throw around another $100 in there. The selection of bows I have come across in shops here range from well below $100 for a fiberglass to infinity - depending on wood and such. I didn't go top dollar by far on the bow since I'm probably going to be doing 95% pizz.
I think around $660 was the best I saw on the net for what it's worth.

Mark
 
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I have heard these bows are great And Bob is more than willing to work with you.
Don't bother with the really cheap bows your just throwing your money away. As far as a price on this bass it seems to be runing at the 660 mark now. Check ebay there is a dealer that is including a stand and free shipping for this price.
 
I don't mean to derail the thread too much, so I'll ask bow questions elsewhere. But what about strings, is it necessary to buy new strings? I'd be using the bass for jazz (99% pizz), and some guitar/db combo stuff, then probably for my school's concert band, which would be bowing. But none of it is solo stuff, so do I need to be that picky with the strings? Are the stock strings really that horrible?
 
If this is the wrong place for this, someone let me know please. During my expensive quest for the right strings for my Palatino, I bought a set of Eurosonic Ultra Lights. Paid 140.00 plus shipping. I had them on my bass for two days and decided that was not the sound I was looking for. They sounded very good however just not what I wanted. So I have no need for them. If somebody would like to have them I am selling them for 70.00 and no charge for mailing. Half price! Now thats a deal!.......Uprightman.....Darrell
 
SBassman said:
Does anyone know of any links to VE500 soundclips?
I'd really like to hear how they sound.

Thanks.

SORRY I don't know of any soundclips, perhaps U could start a new thread question-may get more people to see the question? They sound-with a piece of thin inner tube rubber under the piezo p/up & with D'addario Helicore Hybrid lights( I'd like to get some Nylon strings I've heard they sound great with them) sounds to me anyway - in between a Elec. uprite bass & an acoustic uprite amplified. people & muso's????:ninja: :help: have come up to me at gigs & said that it sounds great & they've said it sounded nicer tone wise-for the jazz style we're playing I s'pose- than when I used my Fender jazz with flatwounds on it!:bassist:
For the price- I'm VERY happy with it.:D
 
rodl2005 said:
SORRY I don't know of any soundclips, perhaps U could start a new thread question-may get more people to see the question? They sound-with a piece of thin inner tube rubber under the piezo p/up & with D'addario Helicore Hybrid lights( I'd like to get some Nylon strings I've heard they sound great with them) sounds to me anyway - in between a Elec. uprite bass & an acoustic uprite amplified. people & muso's????:ninja: :help: have come up to me at gigs & said that it sounds great & they've said it sounded nicer tone wise-for the jazz style we're playing I s'pose- than when I used my Fender jazz with flatwounds on it!:bassist:
For the price- I'm VERY happy with it.:D
I'm not convences about nylon strings. We heard on with nylon this last weekend and it sounded thin and weak with a weird thunk sound. After they got off os stage they wondered into our jam and I pulled out all of my own tricks. Really couldn't get a good sound out of it. My vote is still for the Helicores. I do run the heavys on it though and have a new bridge on it too. Anyway try them I saw some on ebay for 30 bucks.
 
SBassman said:
Does anyone know of any links to VE500 soundclips?
I'd really like to hear how they sound.

Thanks.

I must say I'm shocked to see how much discussion has occurred regarding this bass. It's been almost a year since I posted (I was the one who originally fashioned a bass stand out of a cymbal stand, tom arm and tom bracket) so it appears I've missed out on a lot!

Anyway, I've got a clip of the VE-500 in action. I play in a Led Zeppelin tribute band and I use this bass to play "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp". It can be heard on our myspace site (Link Removed) - warning - the song will begin playing right away. The bass was completely stock at the time of recording (still is for that matter as I had not read all of the possible improvements from this thread). The bass was plugged right into the board. The singer did all of the post recording editing so I couldn't tell you what kind of processing he did on it. I have to say, if nothing else, this bass has been worth it for the attention it receives when we play that song live! I had dreams of using the Palatino for a cool bowed version of "Kashmir" but I quickly grew frustrated by my crappy bowing technique and went back to playing "Kashmir" on the keyboard as JP Jones would have done.
 
Hi all! Tried a set of Hillbilly Slap Strings (HSS) on my Palatino this weekend, and they sound... okay. Not great, not awful. Probably as good as the stock crappy strings for pizz, pretty awful for arco. The tension is REALLY low. REALLY. They're AWESOME for rockabilly slap, real easy to pull. As far as jazz or any kind of pop / rock playing they're kind of odd sounding, like all fundamentals and no harmonics at all if you understand me. It almost sounds like I turned the treble and high mid knobs on my amp all the way down.

For slap = awesome. If you slap a Palatino, it's $15 you won't regret spending.

For arco, jazz, rock = mediocre.

That's my two cents.

Matt Farrow
 
Being a really old fashioned (and an old fart according to my kids....I turned 50 yesterday) guy, I don't like trying to read all these posts on a computer screen...is there a way to print this entire post?????
Having the new bass "set up lefty" today!!! Will keep you all "posted"!
cheers!
 
DaBassman said:
Being a really old fashioned (and an old fart according to my kids....I turned 50 yesterday) guy, I don't like trying to read all these posts on a computer screen...is there a way to print this entire post?????
Having the new bass "set up lefty" today!!! Will keep you all "posted"!
cheers!

My oldest son - 15 years old - loves to me jokes about me being old and out of shape. :)

Are you referring to the VE500? If so, where did you get it in NY?

Anyone else out there in NY with a VE500? Where did you get it?
 
grommit said:
this weekend im hoping on going to check out a palatino at the bass store in sydney.

so just a question to the other aussie guys, how much did you pay for yours?

ive seen them on some sites for $1250, but others for $1500, so i just want to know how good a price i could do.

Hey grommit, The Bass shop in Sydney is one of the main places. U can usually get 'em for $1200 or $1400 with some decent strings on=not a bad option as the ones that come on it are wire. Bass shop stes 'em up good 2 I hear.
good luck wiiiiith it, & be sure to try some of the free/cheap mods suggested on this thread. Rod.
 
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