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Double Bass Palatino Megathread part I

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#261
DaBassman said:
Found it!!! Fits great!
FYI, it takes an 8mm threaded cymbal stand!!! (I'm told they come in 6mm and 8mm)
Hope this helps anyone else that's looking
cheers
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Now that you have had some time to play with the stand do you find it henders you in any way? I really struggled when I had mine mounted up. I still would like to try it some more but find my self all over the stage with the bass. Plus I just can't stop dancing with it. My progressive bluegrass group plays Brick Hause and I intend to put a big blond wig, lips and sun glasses on my blond acoustic for this song. Have to dance with it then. I love playing bass really glad I started and stoped the outer instruments. Just the carring it a bummer.-Doug
 
#262
I also added a piece of wood (about the size and shape of a hockey puck)between the bass and the large washer on the stand. It stabilizes the 3" (or so) threaded screw that is exposed between the two pieces!
I haven't played out with it yet so, movement not a problem...yet! It is a little cumbersome to move around.
But what fun to play!!!!!
I'd like to see a photo of that bass with a wig and shades!!!!
 
#263
I have been having trouble especially on concrete with the bass sliding all over. I tries using a rubber cup for chairs but it just wares out in no time. I think the best solution it to put in a Super Endpin ball. I'm going to remove the tapered plastic end and insert a piece of solid steel and then turn it down the the 11MM. This should do it. I have been using them on my other basses for 3 years now and don't have any trouble with slipping. Have any of you done any modifications to your end pin?
 
#267
I just got my Palatino a couple days ago. I made the adjustments with the rubber, and adjusted the angle of the bridge (as well as putting in longer screws for more support in the bridge). It sounds great for the most part, but bowing it sounds really poor. What strings do you guys use for the Palatino that work good with arco, and are decent for pizzacato. I'll probably play pizzacato more, but I figure that's an easier thing to adjust with my amp, where as (I'd assume) it would be more important to get a pure tone with the bow.


Couple other questions: is it more important to get a pre-amp, or new strings. Right now I just play it through my amp (either a DB-500, or two other ones... I'll find the makes next time I go to school). I don't route it through a pre-amp or anything

Also, my tone on the G string is horrible in comparison to the other three. Has anyone else had that problem?
 
#268
Dunno-Heaven on a......- I just got a new set of D'addario Helicore Hybrids which bow OK as well as sound FAR better than the strings that were stock!!!!! I do about 98% pizz. so bowing sound I'm not a good source of info really-also I'm not very experienced @ bowing so I NEED 2 practice at it!!:crying: ;)
I haven't got a pre amp- I live in AUS but by the sounds of things previously written in this thread, a couple of the guys writing in this thread have some good things to say re pre-amps. I may go this route later. But mine sounds fine for the cocktail style jazz we're playing!!:hyper:
Rod
 
#270
A question for salsa and latin-jazz players...

We all know the Ampeg Baby bass is the standard sound that we love for salsa and latin-jazz.

How does the Palatino do in comparison to the Ampeg Vintage models...and their replicas...and just for kicks, I have a friend who recommend an Eminence, but they're like $3000.00. Obviously, the Eminence is a higher-end bass and I expect it sounds better...but really, let's get down and gritty...is it very noticeable, both by us, the ever-demanding bassists and even more important, by other musicians and the audience? I'm a poor electric bassist wanting to try the upright bass world...and if I can just do gigs with this, I'm happy. I do not need to sound like YoYo Ma on his cello...

If the Palatino can do salsa and latin-jazz gigs professionally well...I'm sold on it. :)
 
#271
jamiefoxer said:
A question for salsa and latin-jazz players...

We all know the Ampeg Baby bass is the standard sound that we love for salsa and latin-jazz.

How does the Palatino do in comparison to the Ampeg Vintage models...and their replicas...and just for kicks, I have a friend who recommend an Eminence, but they're like $3000.00. Obviously, the Eminence is a higher-end bass and I expect it sounds better...but really, let's get down and gritty...is it very noticeable, both by us, the ever-demanding bassists and even more important, by other musicians and the audience? I'm a poor electric bassist wanting to try the upright bass world...and if I can just do gigs with this, I'm happy. I do not need to sound like YoYo Ma on his cello...

If the Palatino can do salsa and latin-jazz gigs professionally well...I'm sold on it. :)
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I beleive this bass would work out fine for you with new strings and a little set up work. I have not found any great limitations yet and it preforms flawlessly for me. At this point there are over 600 hours on mine. I wouldn't be afraid to buy it.
 
#272
thanks Nohandles...as soon as I can raise the funds, I'm getting myself a Palatino...gonna keep my eye for it. It would be nice if someone on this thread could compile all the "improvement" suggestions on one easy to read FAQ or website page that people could reference...having to dig through the entire thread is time consuming. I spent 2 hours this morning reading the entire thread.
 
#273
I am a little crazy right now (come by it naturaly) but I will compile all the details of changes this week. I'm getting ready to do a Ukulele, Kazoo and vocal CD in the next month but I will get this too. It would be a nice thing for reference. Hope you can get one soon... they are great value for their price.
 
#276
To get those classic baby bass sounds, you may also want to add a magnetic pickup and mix it in. Between string choice, technique, eq and pickups you can probably make one of these basses put out a lot of different sounds.

I have tried Babys a long time ago but not a Palatino yet, so I may be talking out my a** here. Time for sleep. I have been keeping my neighbors up with my bowing practice. ;)

Peace,
S
 
#278
Well, after reading this great thread I was convinced and bought a Palatino too! I've had a few problems so far, though. My first Palatino arrived in two pieces...broken right at the heel of the neck in its styrofoam formfit container. Its replacement was intact however, and my friend from the music store and I tried the rubber mod right away (I used a bit of bike inner tube, since I have no idea where you get rubber in varying durometers). With the tailpiece damped with a T shirt and some cloth woven into the strings below the bridge, it sounded pretty nice through my bass SansAmp at home at low volume...but taking it to a jam session in town, I was hit with some instant feedback at moderate volume. True, I was playing through a horrible amp (a Hartke Kickback, I've owned one and never was able to dial in a decent tone on it), but why so much feedback? Plus I found a large discrepancy in volumes between the E and A (quite boomy) and the D and G (almost invisible). I've obviously got some tweaking to do. Switching out the strings is gonna be the first order of biz for me I guess...I've got some Corellis and Helicore Orchestrals at home...but any other ideas would be welcomed! I have read all of this thread so far, and it's been a wealth of information, thanks to all who have contributed...
 
#279
I put my rubber modification between the bridge and pickup rather than under the pickup, that seemed to smooth out the volume issue I noticed as well. I also run it thru either a bass Sans amp or the Yahama Nathan East EQ unit I have.
 
#280
Beowulf K said:
Well, after reading this great thread I was convinced and bought a Palatino too! I've had a few problems so far, though. My first Palatino arrived in two pieces...broken right at the heel of the neck in its styrofoam formfit container. Its replacement was intact however, and my friend from the music store and I tried the rubber mod right away (I used a bit of bike inner tube, since I have no idea where you get rubber in varying durometers). With the tailpiece damped with a T shirt and some cloth woven into the strings below the bridge, it sounded pretty nice through my bass SansAmp at home at low volume...but taking it to a jam session in town, I was hit with some instant feedback at moderate volume. True, I was playing through a horrible amp (a Hartke Kickback, I've owned one and never was able to dial in a decent tone on it), but why so much feedback? Plus I found a large discrepancy in volumes between the E and A (quite boomy) and the D and G (almost invisible). I've obviously got some tweaking to do. Switching out the strings is gonna be the first order of biz for me I guess...I've got some Corellis and Helicore Orchestrals at home...but any other ideas would be welcomed! I have read all of this thread so far, and it's been a wealth of information, thanks to all who have contributed...
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As mine had ended up I have rubber on the top and under the pickup on E & A side and only on the bottom of the pickup on the G & D side this work for me. I tried all sorts of rubber while it was being tweeked but this seemed to work best. The bike intertube was the first thing I used to dampen it. Since I work for a company that uses rubber for sealing we stock lots of varing kinds and I tried all kinds of combo's. The intertube is about 85? if memory serves me correctly and that is a realy good hardness.
 
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