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Pay To Audition?

Valid point. Earlier I came down on the side of not paying and also thinking being asked is a sign of more red flags to come. I hadn't considered that the guy who organized it might not be thinking of himself as a band leader, so he might not be thinking about it from the invitees' perspective. But I still think it's pretty tacky to take a leadership role in organizing a band and then expect the invitees to pay, at least for that initial audition. However, I also see nothing with the "BL" (the guy who organized it and will apparently make the selections) saying that a condition of being selected is that you'll pay your share of future studio rental costs. But the initial audition, nah.

The band leader might just be clueless or inexperienced, but it should have been pretty easy to tell that from any conversations or exchanges prior to showing up for the audition. If he was experienced, then I'd think the request was a red flag and stay away. If he's inexperienced, well, maybe he could be given some slack.

i wasn't actually making a point - just saying i've run into this situation a couple times.

sometimes being that inexperienced can be a red flag of its own unless someone mentors the guy or takes over BL duties, and not everyone wants to do that.
 
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Thank you all for your input on this. I will be going to this audition, and am hopeful I get the position. I think I'm the only bassist auditioning, there are three drummers coming, a lead guitar and singer. All in all, I am confident that the BL is just covering the studio time, but it does chaff me a bit to have to pay to play! hanks all y'all! I'll let you know how it goes!


Poach the other 2 drummers, and start an Adam and The Ants tribute band.

Be sure to thank the BL as you leave, for making it so cost effective for you to audition your new drummers.
 
Just part of the beauty of living in an area where you can buy a three bedroom/two bath house with a finished basement for well under $200K. :)

Sure, but if you're serious about a professional career in music, you live in one of a handful of major cities, and $200K would barely buy you a 1 bedroom apartment, with separate kitchen, and lounge.

Not everyone wants to make music their career, or they have other life considerations, which means they can / need to live in the suburbs (where your $200K goes a lot further - maybe even a basement, or a garage) - even then, the vast majority of musicians that I know / work with, rent a few hours time in a rehearsal studio, once, or twice a week (and work on songs - unplugged - at home). The family, and neighbours just wouldn't tolerate the noise, or the smell.

Must be amazing to have enough space between properties, to be able to have regular band practices, without disturbing anyone - but the downside is that it's even harder to find likeminded / talented musicians, the more remote you are.
 
Its only $12 but at the same time... asking somebody that isnt in the band yet to help finance their search for a bass player really does set a precedent that I wouldnt want to take part in.

It's not necessarily a bad precedent. It may be that the band is very cooperative and believes in sharing, and doesn't even register that someone auditioning shouldn't be part of that. I am not saying it is right to charge someone, just that there are a number of possible thought processes that could lead to the charge, and not all are necessarily indicative of something negative.
 
As usual, I pretty much disagree with the majority of TB members....

It's perfectly acceptable to share the cost of a Studio rehearsal space. Even as a future member.

Suck it up and pay the $12. Or lug all your equipment to a free space if you can actually find one conveniently located for all members.

Sheeeesh!!

If I was auditioning a member as a replacement, or to fill the last spot in a band, then I'd not expect that person to audition. If I got a number of people together to see if a band were possible, given the assembled members, then even if I was organising it, I would potentially float the idea of splitting the cost. If the nature of the band was definitely one of a relatively autocratic band leader, plus hired guns, though, I'd expect the band leader to pay for all rehearsals, and consider that to be a business expense.
 
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It's not necessarily a bad precedent. It may be that the band is very cooperative and believes in sharing, and doesn't even register that someone auditioning shouldn't be part of that. I am not saying it is right to charge someone, just that there are a number of possible thought processes that could lead to the charge, and not all are necessarily indicative of something negative.
True... there is a tiny chance that it skipped the mind of all other members simultaneously that its not the responsibility of prospective bandmates to front the cost of their own auditio while they were being sure to mention to him that he'll be expected to chip in.
 
True... there is a tiny chance that it skipped the mind of all other members simultaneously that its not the responsibility of prospective bandmates to front the cost of their own auditio while they were being sure to mention to him that he'll be expected to chip in.

Incompetence is a perfectly reasonable explanation for many things. I try to not only remember things, but record them, to avoid issues (dull stuff like gig checklists and requirement lists, so the right questions are asked about the venue, and dull stuff like health and safety templates, as some venues require them*), but they might be new.

* Thinking about it, those might be useful resources in the Live Music forum as stickies, customised for major nations, maybe. They require customisation for every band, of course.
 
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Incompetence is a perfectly reasonable explanation for many things. I try to not only remember things, but record them, to avoid issues (dull stuff like gig checklists and requirement lists, so the right questions are asked about the venue, and dull stuff like health and safety templates, as some venues require them*), but they might be new.

* Thinking about it, those might be useful resources in the Live Music forum as stickies, customised for major nations, maybe. They require customisation for every band, of course.
Very fair point about incompetence. Verrrrrry fair
 
As I posted earlier, this an interesting thread. Got me thinking, about equipment, jam and practice/audition space.
Our senior meal site has a six channel powered mixer and a couple of speakers.
We need to justify grant requests for more equipment, like mikes stands, money to copy share music, a 5 piece drum kit, and keyboard. The house band will prepare a proposal to have a monthly jam session open to the dad's, the moms and grands where the jammers bring their instruments their cables and extra copies of the music to share. Some of the threads on tb will provide direction for the jam.
No, we probably won't charge audition fees but coffee and bottled water will have charges.
 
If I was auditioning a member as a replacement, or to fill the last spot in a band, then I'd not expect that person to audition. If I got a number of people together to see if a band were possible, given the assembled members, then even if I was organising it, I would potentially float the idea of splitting the cost. If the nature of the band was definitely one of a relatively autocratic band leader, plus hired guns, though, I'd expect the band leader to pay for all rehearsals, and consider that to be a business expense.

I think this is the case. Obviously, I will know definitively Sunday, but this is the first meeting of prospective band members to see how it all fits together.
 
I haven't read this whole thread, but we had a drummer come to audition for our cover band recently. We went to pay for the time at the rehearsal room and he said "I've had such an awesome time tonight I insist on paying my share" and that was it. I did try and insist, but how can you stop a man who's enjoying himself that much!!

On reflection, I think he didn't see it as an audition as much as he just saw it as the day he joined the band, and he was good so we weren't going to argue with him!